Or others are concerned about lack of signings but haven't resorted to endless posts saying the same thing, which therefore makes them 'apologists' apparently.
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Summer 2015 Transfer Window DISCUSSION Thread
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Or others are concerned about lack of signings but haven't resorted to endless posts saying the same thing, which therefore makes them 'apologists' apparently.
Spot on. Ask yourself why players agitate for a move. Not all of them are motivated by money. They're the ones who know what goes on at the club week in week out and unfortunately sometimes they see a club going nowhere. A footballers career is short and if you're at the top of the game you want to play for a club with ambition and challenge for honors. The management can't make promises to players and then hold their arms up in despair when the player decides to move on because the promises never materialized.
I just hope that possible signings can see the sliver of potential at spurs and what pocc is trying to build. You have to think with the right style of play/system and a group of technically gifted and motivated players you can make a decent challenge (I'm thinking Athletico Madrid). You don't necessarily need world beaters or to throw masses of money at it like Chelsea. But you need a decent manger, a good football culture within the club with a long term plan, and a chairmen ready to back the manager with the players he wants when he wants them. 11 managers in 15 years (or whatever it is) is just unacceptable.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-mauricio-pochettino-targets-further-signings
Poch:
"Yes, this is very clear," he said. "We need to add more players."
So that's plural.
Poch:
"Yes, this is very clear," he said. "We need to add more players."
So that's plural.
Now it's really plural!!
I'd love to have faced Sunday with some positive transfer excitement. Something like a big name player, in their prime, coming in...it's been years ( it feels ) like we shopped at Harords & not Sainsbury's & Lidl, picking up their weekend specials.
I personally get frustrated thinking about "Long term plans" these feel meaningful if your guaranteed the long term, but no one is. That speeding bus might be just around the corner !
Today and the now is what should really count. The past can give comfort when today is hard but that's all its validity really & No man ever got fat on a cheese tomorrow diet.
Under Levy, we have spent 15 years focusing on long term plan, dreaming of getting fat tomorrow..but Tomorrow never comes & never will based on evidence until they piss off.
There is no Glory in being at OT unable to field a second striker. There is no glory in links to second rate targets from Lyon or chasing a kid from WBA who's attitude is questionable at best, their certainly is little glory in 2 league cup wins in 24 years !
I really don't see what our statement of intent is, aside from "we aim to finish 6th, but 8th will do"
I personally get frustrated thinking about "Long term plans" these feel meaningful if your guaranteed the long term, but no one is. That speeding bus might be just around the corner !
Today and the now is what should really count. The past can give comfort when today is hard but that's all its validity really & No man ever got fat on a cheese tomorrow diet.
Under Levy, we have spent 15 years focusing on long term plan, dreaming of getting fat tomorrow..but Tomorrow never comes & never will based on evidence until they piss off.
There is no Glory in being at OT unable to field a second striker. There is no glory in links to second rate targets from Lyon or chasing a kid from WBA who's attitude is questionable at best, their certainly is little glory in 2 league cup wins in 24 years !
I really don't see what our statement of intent is, aside from "we aim to finish 6th, but 8th will do"
we need somebody who can run at a few players with a bit of pace like bale and lennon once did we got nothing like that.Just be nice to watch other than playing it back to the keeper all the time and pissing about at the back
What fucks me up is this loser mentality that we have accepted as a club.
Yes, the window is open until 4 matches into the campaign, doesn't mean we need to sign any fucking players then IF we prepared and did things early.
I think this "other clubs don't either" excuse is for losers. Why do we want to be like the rest of them? Settled squad who know what they have to do going into the season without change is an unmeasurable bonus rather than having some leave and some come in a month into the season and no extra time to get them settled in.
Mitchell has been here since November and he still hasn't got any targets? Are you tucking kidding me? Or is it that Levy chose not to go after them once again? There is absolutely zero upside to doing business late.
If Palace, Saints, Swansea, even Newcastle and West Ham can go after targets for cheap and make instant impact, what the fuck have we been doing? Don't say "may not fit Poch's plans" because from what I've seen, he still has not convinced me what fucking plan he even has. We have zero variation to our attack and we are one of the most predictable teams in the league. We do the same thing over and over again, unless that is Poch's plan, which should be enough to get him fired. But, if he does have one, and needs the players, there surely are many who fit the same role that can be done early if the one we want doesn't want to come or is overpriced.
Telling me that we only wanted Njie the whole time is horseshit. If he signs, he could've signed two months ago. If it is Berahino, everyone knows about him.
We didn't play badly against United, an immature Bentaleb aside, but looking at us try to attack was deplorable. You can't be a coach if you think we need not sign anyone before the start of the season.
Someone has fucked up. Given that we have done this shit way before Mitchell and Poch ever got here leads me to believe, it is once again, none other than Daniel fucking Levy. But people continue to believe his lies and let him go about doing shit all. We should not be satisfied because we snagged a decent signing on deadline day. We should be angry as fuck it took so long to sign a player for a position we know we need to improve. It's called bad planning and in any other industry, if you keep making the same mistake, you would be fired.
So, for the umpteenth consecutive year, fuck you you bald headed, arrogant, near sighted, narrow minded, lying cuntsack. But you know, we get the success we think we deserve, so you naive dipshits that keep defending him and this insane process, well done. To the rest, we soldier on.
Yes, the window is open until 4 matches into the campaign, doesn't mean we need to sign any fucking players then IF we prepared and did things early.
I think this "other clubs don't either" excuse is for losers. Why do we want to be like the rest of them? Settled squad who know what they have to do going into the season without change is an unmeasurable bonus rather than having some leave and some come in a month into the season and no extra time to get them settled in.
Mitchell has been here since November and he still hasn't got any targets? Are you tucking kidding me? Or is it that Levy chose not to go after them once again? There is absolutely zero upside to doing business late.
If Palace, Saints, Swansea, even Newcastle and West Ham can go after targets for cheap and make instant impact, what the fuck have we been doing? Don't say "may not fit Poch's plans" because from what I've seen, he still has not convinced me what fucking plan he even has. We have zero variation to our attack and we are one of the most predictable teams in the league. We do the same thing over and over again, unless that is Poch's plan, which should be enough to get him fired. But, if he does have one, and needs the players, there surely are many who fit the same role that can be done early if the one we want doesn't want to come or is overpriced.
Telling me that we only wanted Njie the whole time is horseshit. If he signs, he could've signed two months ago. If it is Berahino, everyone knows about him.
We didn't play badly against United, an immature Bentaleb aside, but looking at us try to attack was deplorable. You can't be a coach if you think we need not sign anyone before the start of the season.
Someone has fucked up. Given that we have done this shit way before Mitchell and Poch ever got here leads me to believe, it is once again, none other than Daniel fucking Levy. But people continue to believe his lies and let him go about doing shit all. We should not be satisfied because we snagged a decent signing on deadline day. We should be angry as fuck it took so long to sign a player for a position we know we need to improve. It's called bad planning and in any other industry, if you keep making the same mistake, you would be fired.
So, for the umpteenth consecutive year, fuck you you bald headed, arrogant, near sighted, narrow minded, lying cuntsack. But you know, we get the success we think we deserve, so you naive dipshits that keep defending him and this insane process, well done. To the rest, we soldier on.
Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale.
All of them have moved on and won trophies we have no hope of winning. Not top 4. Not CL football. Trophies. Major trophies. But more importantly, they would all have received a healthy pay rise, no doubt amounts that are well out of our reach.
So which one of them do you think would have stuck around in order to mince about in the CL group stages with a club that had not competed in the competition until a few years ago, rather than move to a club for a huge pay rise and actually have a chance of winning said trophy?
You're deluded if you think just by coming top 4 we can hold onto some of the best players the Premier League has ever seen. The calibre of the clubs poaching our players are too attractive to resist. It's annoying, even heartbreaking as a fan, but you cannot blame them.
Those clubs are thriving off of decades of success, 2 of the biggest clubs in world football and best known brands globally. And you think that by finishing 4th they'll reject their advances?
There's very little loyalty in modern football. For most it's just about money - the very best also want their names in the hall of fame. They couldn't give a fuck about Spurs.
Rest assured, if United got for Lloris, he'll go. No club of our size can hold onto that calibre of player for too long. He's not going to hang around for 10 years to see if we ever get close to winning the league or the CL.
It'd be nice if what you say was right, but that's not the mentality of today's footballers I'm afraid.
10M plus Fazio. I would do that.
Bender starting for BVB today:
What looser mentality?
It's fucking ridiculous talk like this from melts and folks that have just hopped on the bandwagon that is the problem.
You think Levy is a looser? I don't. You really think that this profit oriented man believes the best way to make money is to keep Spurs out of the top 4?
I think he's one of the smartest operators out there. You remember the years under Mr Amstrad?!?
Granted he has personal and company interests, but this guy is no mug. He's a fan but not a football man and has made mistakes, most likely based on shit opinions from others that he relied upon.
But you can see an evolution of his operation over the years and each year we face mega spending we can't match.
Man City, who the fuck are they? Where did they come from? Same for Chelski. But they are regular top 4 with a resource we can't match and a change in direction (souless club) that many dont want for ourselves.
Because we probably have absolutely no interest in him or have even made any type of bid. Now can we move on?
Fucking hell mate, Levy isn't the club. He said the club had a losing mentality, now whether you believe that or not, that's what he said. Some of you blokes are so far up Levy's arse you have to twist what other people say to suit your ridiculous agenda.
And it's fucking "loser" he's not firing arrows, jesus.
Let's sign gundogan
I think you're criticizing the wrong people for the lack of progression. In short, (I may elaborate with a long post later if I have time) Levy could have easily said bollocks to the stadium and gone full out to getting a better team to make those who have short term goals close to their hearts.
He is building a decent platform to project ourselves for a bigger better future, we'll have a 60,001 seater stadium and an established youth set up bringing genuine world class players through. On top of that, by the time we get there our first team would have matured and will be genuinely challenging for titles and trophies by the year.
When, not if, this happens the Levy boo boys will finally get their short term success, we have to endure the slow progression and not be blinded by the likes of Chelsea and Man City. But rather be glad that we achieved what we're inevitably going to with Levy rather than going down the route of Leeds or even falling off like Villa, Newcastle and Everton.
what I find both interesting (and slightly irritating) about transfer targets like N'Jie is that when we first heard about our interest in him he was touted as a raw young talent with potential to develop - one for the future. But as the weeks go by and more established striking targets come and go (I'm assuming spurs have been actively pursuing other strikers) all of a sudden a sense of desperation creeps in - all of sudden we have to get him as if he's the final piece in the jigsaw. So you can see how expectations of a players ability and what they bring to the table can easily become distorted within the minds of fans, and maybe perhaps within the minds of the people who run the club.
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