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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Andros Townsend won goal of the last season

Of course Dele is superior in every way but I think most people are frustrated that he seems to be drifting and not improving like he should be. That goal was 3.5 years ago and tbh he hasn't got anywhere near to scoring a goal similar since that one.
I'll bet you judge players on their YouTube compilations as well, eh?
Goals like that are great but too many people use that goal as the yardstick to beat him with, instead of a metric to judge him by.
Not everything in football is goal of the season shit, some of the most telling football played never gets a mention.
 
I get what todd1882 todd1882 is saying with Alli, (although the "one step ahead of Sissoko" was harsh) but also understand the incredulity of some at a criticism of his technical ability. The truth is he is cabable of moments of supreme technical quality, the problem is, they are interspersed with a shit load of poor first touches, bumbling, wastage - brought about by technical failings or bad decision making.

And after three years of constant high level coaching, PL and CL football, you would expect the ratio of good/bad to have shifted heavily toward the good, not just in better touch and less bumbling away possession but in terms of decision making - ie when to try the highly improbable and when to just put your foot on it and play someone in a better position in - and toward the end of last season I thought it had, but the balance of this season would suggest not.

I think one of the problems may be that Poch has heavily indulged him, never really given him the kick up the arse he needed, when he really needed it, he's been allowed to churn out some really poor performances constantly at various times in his three years with us, without facing the bench for a week or two like others would.

Before we signed him, I watched him for MK a few times and questioned where he'd play for a top4 PL side as he lacked the dynamism to play in a CM2 which we played entirely back then, and the true technical ability to play as a ACM. The truth is Poch has shoehorned formats around to accommodate him and Eriksen into the same side at times and it's not always worked, the CL final being a great example.
 
As I said Brandt wanted to stay in Germany. Wages not the issue.

3 CM's - WTF ? 2 CM's is possible but I could live with one minimum, depends what Poch is going to do with Skipp and Amos.

Rabiot has a very forceful agent and publicity machine, hence only 6 caps for France at age 24 but better known than most French internationals. Total opposite personality traits to a Spurs team player, just cannot the prima donna fitting in.

If you've seen lots of rumours, why not include Messi as well ? ATM, he's been more rumoured to come to Spurs than VDV was at 18.00 on the last night of the TW when he arrived !

No point in just posting a wish list, its only useful/informative/challenging to others if the list is of players who have been linked tom Spurs (although always a 1% chance of a Messi or VDV).


No one on my wish list hadn't been linked? None of them were outrageous. Which do you think were ?
 
I get what todd1882 todd1882 is saying with Alli, (although the "one step ahead of Sissoko" was harsh) but also understand the incredulity of some at a criticism of his technical ability. The truth is he is cabable of moments of supreme technical quality, the problem is, they are interspersed with a shit load of poor first touches, bumbling, wastage - brought about by technical failings or bad decision making.

And after three years of constant high level coaching, PL and CL football, you would expect the ratio of good/bad to have shifted heavily toward the good, not just in better touch and less bumbling away possession but in terms of decision making - ie when to try the highly improbable and when to just put your foot on it and play someone in a better position in - and toward the end of last season I thought it had, but the balance of this season would suggest not.

I think one of the problems may be that Poch has heavily indulged him, never really given him the kick up the arse he needed, when he really needed it, he's been allowed to churn out some really poor performances constantly at various times in his three years with us, without facing the bench for a week or two like others would.

Before we signed him, I watched him for MK a few times and questioned where he'd play for a top4 PL side as he lacked the dynamism to play in a CM2 which we played entirely back then, and the true technical ability to play as a ACM. The truth is Poch has shoehorned formats around to accommodate him and Eriksen into the same side at times and it's not always worked, the CL final being a great example.

Forget the rest of the post, the highlighted bit is the most pertinent.

1. Many managers try to squeeze the best players into a team, Poch is no different

2. Eriksen usually plays no 10 (Dele's best natural role ) whilst Dele is playing as LAM, yet Dele has scored more than Lampard and Gerrard COMBINED at the same age despite being played out of position etc.

Just wash your mouth out before spouting some of your opinions !
 
Hey, if what he posts works for you then it's all good. He's not my cup of tea and I find his football commentary facile and vacuous, and his ubiquity annoying.
Less is more, as the old saying goes.
I take your point but any Spurs fan has that as a redeeming quality. The thread provides so many different points of view for all of us to read and analyze but ultimately we all want the same thing. For Spurs to fulfill their destiny.
 
Sigh. This is going to be a very long summer!

Some are already melting, others think they're on the Spurs scouting team and quite a few are merely here for the cunt offs.

I think I'll stick to the Brexit thread, far more friendly and much less argumentative by comparison!

Don't forget the ones who write long exhausting paragraphs just to prove a they're right.
 
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Typical fucking yank. The usual intellectual comeback. We've been at this game for 600 years. Of course we know more than you. Are you a complete moron?
 
I could pick any game, literally any game of at least 60+ minutes, from the last 4 years and show at least 5 times where his technical ability let him down. So no I don't think this is a ridiculous statement.


That was 3.5 seasons ago. That was a great moment but I am not impressed by that as a measure of technical ability. So I ask you this, and if you answer you will be the first, tell me one thing that Dele has improved on since the first time you saw him in a Spurs' kit. How is he a player any different than the player we saw heading in that last minute goal at Leicester? Like Raheem Sterling can now shoot, take FKs, and hit the ball with his left foot when previously he was just a dribbler. Like how Harry added improved hold-up play, distribution, and back to goal interplay to his game year on year. Even Sonny's touch which was super wonky in his first year got much more assured in the next two (kinda deserted him in the last 3-4 months though). What has Dele improved?

When you find the difficulty in answering that question then you will know why I don't hold out hope that he will improve.


That's a statement of no real value though isn't it? It stands to reason that if you free any player from defensive responsibilities they will become more productive in goals and assists right? If Julian Brandt was in that position with no defensive responsibilities he would have doubled Dele's numbers. Imagine Hazard in that position. Imagine any player you can with better technical ability than Dele in that position with little defensive responsibility and they would produce more. The only thing they may not get is backpost headers.

Again, if this occurs and we see an uptick in production he would still be a player whose position would only be justified by production. I would prefer a more consistent performer in the team that aids the build-up play as well as goals. If Dele improves his overall game and becomes that person I will be singing about the 5 mill too. But if he remains that guy that can't be trusted to play anywhere outside of hanging around Harry then I wouldn't mind seeing someone else given a chance.
I don't know why youre bringing Brandt into this when Julian Brandt is the same age and has scored less than Dele in an inferior league, and scored less in arguably a better national side. I doubt he's offered more defensively either.
Claiming you could pick holes in any of his games means fuck all. You could do the same with virtually any player. Some dicks are digging out Messi for he anfield fuck up.
Get a grip and stop creating a daft narrative about one of our best young players, it makes you sound like a twat.
 
Forget the rest of the post, the highlighted bit is the most pertinent.

1. Many managers try to squeeze the best players into a team, Poch is no different

2. Eriksen usually plays no 10 (Dele's best natural role ) whilst Dele is playing as LAM, yet Dele has scored more than Lampard and Gerrard COMBINED at the same age despite being played out of position etc.

Just wash your mouth out before spouting some of your opinions !

Bit OTT?

1. Doesn't make it right.

2. Alli has also played further forward for most of his career so far than Gerrard and Lampard did at similar ages/stages. Alli has started once as an ALM this season in the league. 20 times as an ACM. They would be the 20 times that Eriksen has played CM8 in our stupid diamond I would imagine.

The question is would we actually be better balanced as a team with a proper 8 type player as that "8" and Eriksen as the ACM and Alli on the bench ?

And the highlighted bit wasn't the most pertinent. The point is, as others have said, Alli hasn't really developed any particular facet of his game in the last three years. I don't hate the fella, can see he brings a presence and is capable of good things, but at some point it's got to stop being caveated with a "but a lot of fucking about" too. Especially when he is producing much less goals/assists to balance that off.
 
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