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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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You would think that no club in their right mind would sign Neymar given that his is up on Rape and abuse charges - but hey; Ronaldo in the same boat and he was signed by Juventus.

Chad Evens to man united?
 
I surprised City have not done any business yet. People moan about us making no signings over 2 windows - but City only singed 1 player who actually featured (Mahrez). With Aguero getting older, no nailed on left back, Sane likely leaving and performances notably worse when Fernandhino is not on the field; I'd expect them to decline if they don't sign.

Liverpool on the other hand will likely improve next season. Robertson/Alex Arnold getting better with every game and Ox back from injury. Also fair to say that Mane and Salah hitting their prime.
 
Good response Nabil Bentaleb Nabil Bentaleb

How about fucking off to a Porto forum instead of boring all of us real Spurs fans with your fair weather lingering attraction to us based on some affection to a mediocre (thankfully) former player with a massive attitude problem?

Just to reiterate...there’s two Prem teams based in Manchester. Manchester is a city in a country called England, which is part of the UK. England has a football league, part of which is called the Premier League. In the Premier League there are two clubs called Manchester United and Manchester City. Open wide, choo choo here comes the basic information train...
 
Pochettino has tactical flaws, makes bad decisions now and then......hardly breaking news.

Every successful manager does it, but spend some money on some quality players and they tend to hide, or at least balance out the managers flaws....
Klopp couldn’t make top 4 before spending some money.
Wenger was found out during Woolwich’s austerity cuts.
Ferguson couldn’t do it until he had cash, took him 8 years to win the title.
And i doubt Pep could get Spurs in the top 4 without money never mind win the league.

Pochettino needs money, plain and simple!!
 
COckneY Spurs said:
Pochettino has tactical flaws, makes bad decisions now and then......hardly breaking news.

Every successful manager does it, but spend some money on some quality players and they tend to hide, or at least balance out the managers flaws....
Klopp couldn’t make top 4 before spending some money.
Wenger was found out during Woolwich’s austerity cuts.
Ferguson couldn’t do it until he had cash, took him 8 years to win the title.
And i doubt Pep could get Spurs in the top 4 without money never mind win the league.

Pochettino needs money, plain and simple!!
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I'm not sure Wenger was 'found out'. In fact he was able to consistently deliver top 4 and won a few trophies. If anything, it was the fans demanding more that ultimately killed the enthusiasm of the squad and the coaching team. Ironic really that idiot fans destroyed their own club - and we are seeing exactly the same story now with United. Idiot fans booing Mourinho after he won the European cup and finished 2nd in the league. I'm sure they will turn on Ole if he doesn't win his first 10 fixtures.
 
harry7 said:
I'm not sure Wenger was 'found out'. In fact he was able to consistently deliver top 4 and won a few trophies. If anything, it was the fans demanding more that ultimately killed the enthusiasm of the squad and the coaching team. Ironic really that idiot fans destroyed their own club - and we are seeing exactly the same story now with United. Idiot fans booing Mourinho after he won the European cup and finished 2nd in the league. I'm sure they will turn on Ole if he doesn't win his first 10 fixtures.
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But you get the point tho, managers need good investment as well as good management skills.

Wengers golden era 98/04 was coupled with bringing in top class players, but when top class players became more and more expensive and Woolwich just weren’t in that kind of market anymore the league titles dried up too.....
Utd were nothing before their money.
Blackburn spent heavily during their 2/3 season heyday.
City & Chelsea were complete trash before their sugar daddy’s, and good managers won them titles, average managers couldn’t, even with the money.
Leeds could spend, but never really had the manager to go alongside.
Even Liverpool have been horse shit without investment, and only time will tell if they are truly going to reap the rewards of two or three years of heavy spending.
Leicester were the one exception to the premier league era, but as we have seen that was completely a one off, and will be resigned to history.

Pochettino deserves god like status for what he has done, and what he’s doing, but he will never achieve the ultimate prizes without being able to bring in the players required.
 
Tomo said:
8 years of signings? but Klopp has not been their manager for 8 years, yes of course you need to sign players with a good plan and hence we have Poch for that. It’s about getting players you need to improve the team and for that you need clear direction.

As for Poch I am still not sure what you want, he is never going to be perfect, not is Pep or Klopp but surely you can see giving him better players with greater depth increases the chances of success.
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You lauded Liverpool’s policy.....they existed before Klopp
 
COckneY Spurs said:
But you get the point tho, managers need good investment as well as good management skills.

Wengers golden era 98/04 was coupled with bringing in top class players, but when top class players became more and more expensive and Woolwich just weren’t in that kind of market anymore the league titles dried up too.....
Utd were nothing before their money.
Blackburn spent heavily during their 2/3 season heyday.
City & Chelsea were complete trash before their sugar daddy’s, and good managers won them titles, average managers couldn’t, even with the money.
Leeds could spend, but never really had the manager to go alongside.
Even Liverpool have been horse shit without investment, and only time will tell if they are truly going to reap the rewards of two or three years of heavy spending.
Leicester were the one exception to the premier league era, but as we have seen that was completely a one off, and will be resigned to history.

Pochettino deserves god like status for what he has done, and what he’s doing, but he will never achieve the ultimate prizes without being able to bring in the players required.
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The very serious fly in the ointment with this argument is Leicester City ... but that aside you're right ...

To truly compete we need to move our current salary levels up to 50%-55% of income - which was by the way a stated part of the last five year business plan - and will almost certainly remain in the new five year plan. City for all the talk of huge money are only at 55% ... Utd at just 47%

With the massive increase in our revenue we have yet to see that increase reflected in salaries( a mere 42% of income) but we will.

Big transfers, yup all very sexy, but what wins titles and trophies is keeping the good players you have regardless of whether they cost 5m or 500m to acquire ... just look at City's transfer activity, or rather lack of activity once they had a world class squad, for them it's been all about keeping the best 20 players and tinkering at the edges.

Not claiming by any means that we are City levels, however should we once again keep the core of our squad together, by offering them improved and extended contracts, then adding two or three players good squad players can be considered a success.

Utd, PSG and now Real have played the 300m a window merry-go-round, and still when they come up against the squads built around team longevity and internal development, how's that working out?

With so many clubs having so much money just buying titles and trophies will get harder and harder ... sure you will still need the best players, so for us that means adding, but you will also need a squad that plays together as a unit, with a manger that gets the best from his squad ... the Pogbas, Ozils, Sanchezs and Neymars might be good for your social media presence, but can you really build a team around those flawed egos?

The days of Mourinho, Ferguson, Ancelotti who have always relied on the mega transfer when the going got tough, well their days are probably over ... Pep (yeah he's spent a bundle) Klopp and Poch are the new breed ... a squad of great players, with great tactics, and great togetherness

Will Zidane's attempt at a megabucks throwback to the Galacticos era truly work? Somehow I doubt it, indeed I hope it doesn't ... we may have reached a point where the money is now so obscene and so spread out that to win you actually have to do more than just outspend your rivals ... at least let's hope that's the case.
 
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Had a good look at Lo Celso the other night playing for Argentina... I know it’s only one game, but if that’s what you get for 60 million quid these days...
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scott said:
Not at all. I admire your faith & optimism. 20 pts is a big gap though. We would do amazing to finish ahead of either city or Liverpool. Liverpool did get a lot of luck but not 20 pts worth. We will need to spend a lot to bridge that gap.
I Don't think there much in it between us & Chelsea but now hazard has gone we should finish ahead of them. But they still have some good players. I disagree they will finish mid table though. They still should finish top 6.
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They got 4 points luck just against us! Pickford is another 3 that springs to mind .... so wouldn’t put it past them to have been gifted at least 20 points
 
Airfixx said:
Oh Come on..... If we hadn't been decimated by injuries, we'd have a) finished at least a lot closer to Liverpool (we were in the proverbial title mix at the turn of the NY) and b) waaaay above Chelsea.


That's not blind faith, that's an entirely reasonable assertion.
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Fattynomates said:
They got 4 points luck just against us! Pickford is another 3 that springs to mind .... so wouldn’t put it past them to have been gifted at least 20 points
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the dippers will never have a season of such fortune again and i don't think even the most ardent fans would dispute that. Gifted late winners on numerous occasions and those freak northerly winds that kept blowing Salah over. I can't recall one major injury of note they had either. Similarly i cannot imagine so much going wrong for us again. I'm not one to lament bad luck usually but last year was a fucking joke.
Its completely reasonable to think they'll be 5-10 points worse off next season and we could be 5-10 better off. 20 points is a big ask but its possible. The dippers increased by 22 points on the previous season.
 
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