We won't get anyone from lille.
Their valuations of players are too high for levy.
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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread
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Their valuations of players are too high for levy.
If the gossip on the BBC page is even partially true. we are not going to be in the top 4 for a very long time. Liverpool, City we all know about. Chelsea and Utd are buying really fine players. Our only mention is we haven't even come up with an acceptable offer for Hjoberg or whatever his name is!! We are getting left so far behind, it'll take new owners and huge investment to challenge for the CL place.
Hoping for top 4 in the foreseeable future is a pipe dream. I'll be celebrating if we qualify for the Europa league. Watching how these 4 teams are developing is a lesson Levy needs to learn. But of course he won't and next season might be as angst ridden as this one was. The mighty Spurs are looking mighty unmighty at the moment. It's tragic considering we were one of the flagship teams of the footballing world. We didn't need to do a Leeds. We've done a Levy which is far worse.
Jose didn't sell Salah... wanna know why? Because he was sacked before Salah even finished his loan.
he froze out the best player in the country, why do people act like this is made up. Listen to what KDB says himself and how confused he was that he wasn't playing.
Except he wasn't the best player in the country at that time which is why he went to a 2nd tier German team for two years instead of one the better clubs in the world.
I know everyone loves to crap on Jose for this, especially when they think it has anything to do with Ndomble which it doesn't, but it is certainly possible that KDB did need time to grow up when he was young and at Chelsea. It is possible that Jose was right in a lot of his criticisms of him.
Nada at RB!!!
Gio won him over, I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that the only reason he got a chance to do so, and for a consistent run of matches, was because of injuries to the squad. It wasn't because he worked hard in training or knuckled down or any of that - he just happened to be fit and available at the time we needed him to be.Jose said publicly "I don't know what to do with him" (paraphrasing); yet who remains a starter at the end of season despite Dele, Lamela, Gedson & Ndombele on the bench.....?
....Gio won him over.
He was also rather dismissive of him at times in the media and was more than happy to sub him off:
- Completed 90mins in the league just twice under Poch just twice (3 times all year!).
- Taken off at half time in the horror-show at Brighton.
- Off at 60mins vs both Bayern & Olympiakos.
Tanguy Ndombélé - Stats 22/23
Player stats of Tanguy Ndombélé (SSC Neapel) ➤ Goals ➤ Assists ➤ Matches played ➤ All performance datawww.transfermarkt.co.uk
I think you're dead wrong about #1, but #2... People are highlighing this these facts as a way of dismissing the idea that Ndombele has merely suffered at the hands of a vendetta from Jose. To dismiss those factors above along with pretending their weren't injury AND basic fitness issues is as disingenuous as you are suggesting others of being.
Gio came back and played the last two Champions League matches before Poch got sacked, so it wasn't a match fitness issue that kept him out from mid-November until Boxing Day. Mourinho was playing Winks, Sissoko, etc..over him in midfield.
He took the opportunity, whereas I don't think Ndombele has really been given any opportunity under Jose compared to the run of matches he was getting under Poch, albeit under a team that was largely not working at the time.
I went back and read through the Son thread and you could just copy-replace Son/Ndombele and get most of the same arguments on both sides - note, this is just TWO PAGES but it goes on for hundreds of posts:
Well it was fun to dream about potential good players coming here for a day. Even if my Inter swaps were insanely unlikely at least for a little while it was nice to get excited about this team actually adding world class players that could help move this team forward.
Instead it is back wondering where studs like Kim Min-Jae and Max Aarons fit in with the club. I can’t wait to hear about how good Davies really looked if you ignore all the game footage and focus only how nice he is, how Winks will turn into a player he has never shown the ability to be if he just has superstar PEH next to him and how getting Son and Kane healthy is really much more important than getting in an actual back up striker and that there is no need to bring in a young dynamic player in MF to bring on as a creative sub to help break down teams parking the bus or when things are stale, we have Lamela who can be our super sub in those situations.
The lack of ambition and willingness to settle for mediocre players is maddening. I know they can’t pay what the giants pay but for once a little ambition and desire to add quality to the club would be nice to see.
Instead it is back wondering where studs like Kim Min-Jae and Max Aarons fit in with the club. I can’t wait to hear about how good Davies really looked if you ignore all the game footage and focus only how nice he is, how Winks will turn into a player he has never shown the ability to be if he just has superstar PEH next to him and how getting Son and Kane healthy is really much more important than getting in an actual back up striker and that there is no need to bring in a young dynamic player in MF to bring on as a creative sub to help break down teams parking the bus or when things are stale, we have Lamela who can be our super sub in those situations.
The lack of ambition and willingness to settle for mediocre players is maddening. I know they can’t pay what the giants pay but for once a little ambition and desire to add quality to the club would be nice to see.
This rumor could explain why we are linked to Brozovic
Report: Inter and Brescia agree on Tonali | Football Italia
Inter are reportedly closing in on Sandro Tonali and have come to an agreement with Brescia regarding a loan with an obligation to buy. Corriere di Brescia claims the two clubs have agreed on an expensive loan deal with an obligation to buy the player for a total amount of â¬35m in 2021.www.football-italia.net
Of course it is just a rumour but one that is totally believable, but how depressing is it that Inter are linked to signing a young, elite talented player that we could absolutely use and we get linked to the cast off they are replacing because he has shown to not be good enough.
I am not sure there is a rumour out there that could better represent where we are as a club when it comes to transfers.
I think you're somewhat lost in semantics. If you don't perform in matches nor training, you won't keep your place... If you don't think Gio's willingness to graft on the pitch (and presumably in training) is part of what won Jose over then I'll politely disagree.
He has had less opportunities under Jose... Of course... He's been unavailable more too.... That's black and white, but all was not idyllic under Poch.
I'm not really sure of your point here... Son struggled, got injurred but came good. If you're saying TN may thrive if given a a chance of a second season; then that's a fair prediction; but it doesn't mean people are re-writting his first season.
Levy refuses to live in that world, unfortunately whilst that trend continues this club will always be a bridesmaid.
Why can't i help thinking this rumoured covid related transfer austerity is going to be limited to 1 club? Can you guess which one?
True, but what extra he spends,he would save some of it on travel as any players we sign could walk to the ground.
Lille?
Sorry i thought you said Haringey Borough...
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Gio can't do anything on the pitch if he doesn't get on the pitch at all, and he wasn't on the pitch for the first 6 weeks that Mou was manager, a point where worse players like Dier, Winks and Sissoko were chosen over him. That is horrible management by Mourinho. He only got his chance, and therefore his place, due to injury luck. That's my entire point.
And I'm saying the same arguments that were made against Son are being made against Ndombele: new player from a foreign league struggling in his first season, constant fitness issues, not fit for the intensity of the Premier League, etc...it the same thing all over again.
You won't be able to say that there is a young lad on here who goes to bits over it.
The best solution for all parties concerned is the dinosaur fucks the fuck out of our club.
Everybody happy.
Now, no. But he was a main stay at Real where he was getting 14+ assists a year. He was one of Germany's best. He sucks as a human, but if I had 11/12 Ozil, I would be playing him.
I haven't seen anything out of Tanguy that suggests he is evil as Ozil, but he is a talent like Ozil. Not like for like, but I would build my midfield around him.
Tanguy - Sangaree/Ndidi/... - GLC
That is a sexy lineup and he would be right back in a situation like Lyon where he didn't have to control the whole midfield in a CM2.
(A new gaffa, sussing his options out whilst trying to hit the ground running?)
....This has shifted away from what Gio did or didn't do; to what Jose should or shouldn't have done.
Sure, but you began talking about false narratives about him under Poch....
You'll find plenty of people wanting to see him get another year.