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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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My personal explanation is that window after window nobody came with an actual offer (apart from Inter in January).

At first CE wanted RM, but they never made a bid for him. Last summer he was open for any elite club that wanted him, nobody made an offer. I think because nobody was interested at 50-70m, you believe the declared and crazy price tag was the reason. RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK shared an article here that stated we would've actually accepted 50m from any foreign club (source is AS and I don't know their credibility tbh). If that article is true, I believe it tends towards my theory that nobody was seriously interested, even at a price of 50m which I found véry reasonable (you are allowed to think otherwise if you do). And in the end only Inter were interested for an absolute steal at 17m, which at only 6 months worth of contract left, we couldn't really come out of 'victorious' anymore.

I feel like I'm just repeating myself so apologies if it's repetitive.
(This is also in response to your tag of me in that post)
Stanley, RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK showed 3 different articles from 3 progressive times in the TW with decreasing price tags from 130 (guardian) to 80 (Sun) to 50 (AS). You're going to believe 1 of those but not the others? That is very selective my man. bus-conductor bus-conductor and Airfixx Airfixx will be very proud of you.

But I also posed to you about Levy selling him with 2 years left ie the Sammy Summer. Lessons were supposedly learned and everyone knows that if a player doesn't renew at that mark then the leverage begins to move toward them. 2 summers Levy had to sell him bt nothing. But somehow you don't believe that he was overpriced. Do you belive that if he was puton the market in 2018 for 17M we would have had takers?
 
Stanley, RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK showed 3 different articles from 3 progressive times in the TW with decreasing price tags from 130 (guardian) to 80 (Sun) to 50 (AS). You're going to believe 1 of those but not the others? That is very selective my man. bus-conductor bus-conductor and Airfixx Airfixx will be very proud of you.

But I also posed to you about Levy selling him with 2 years left ie the Sammy Summer. Lessons were supposedly learned and everyone knows that if a player doesn't renew at that mark then the leverage begins to move toward them. 2 summers Levy had to sell him bt nothing. But somehow you don't believe that he was overpriced. Do you belive that if he was puton the market in 2018 for 17M we would have had takers?

Already asked you this, but how do you 'make' Eriksen leave if no club he wants to move to is wanting to buy him? He was only too happy to roll the dice and wind his deal down... Time was on his side in Summer 18.

John Thomas John Thomas - It's all very well you liking the above post, but you'd have shit your knickers about being a selling club if we'd sold CE having just finished 3rd.

You can deny this, but we all know you'd be lying.
 
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Well, you claimed it was not £130m, which suggests that you do know.

Where did claim this. What I have said is that I don't believe Levy wouldn't take less than that. I definitely do not believe Levy refused less than 130m in the summer of 2019 - which is what that article you posted claims. But I have no idea of the exact figure Levy would have taken.

What I do know is that Levy should have moved heaven and earth to sell Eriksen in the summer of 2018. You have even said this yourself-unless you have changed your mind again.

Again ? where's the again ?

This bullshit from you and Todd is getting pretty fucking tedious.

So tell me, when have I done this on Eriksen's situation? I've never changed my opinion that he should have been attempted to be sold with 2 years left at the latest.

When have I expressed contradicting opinions on anything at the same time?

We ended up with a player who didn't want to be here (Poch was very discreet when asked about it, but the more direct Mourinho said Eriksen was not fully motivated), and we ended up getting buttons for him. And a whole lot of drama we could have done without. So, we had drama, we took a significant financial hit, but best of all, we missed an opportunity to reinvest a good wedge of money to revamp the squad at a time when it desperately needed it.

And that is all part of a pattern when Discount Dan is involved. Not shifting players when they need to be shifted.



I don't know, but my best guess, for the wank that that is worth, is that we probably did put out feelers, and of course Levy would aim to get the most he could (which chairman wouldn't - look at the bullshit prices Aulas starts at when his players are going) but that no clubs that Eriksen was interested in, who might have paid "decent" money were interested in him. I think Levy would have taken less than 130m in the summer of 2018. I definitely think he would taken a fuck of a lot less in Summer 2019. In fact there were stories of Levy saying "we wouldn't be scared to sell Eriksen to another club in the PL" - that sounds a lot like Levy doing his best to advertise Eriksen out.

This link claims he was offered to ManU and he knocked them back


I think this was more about Eriksen doing what players sometimes do in his position, trying to run his contract down so much that he becomes more appealing to a club that is more interesting to him. IMaybe thinking Barca won't pay 70m for me, but they might take me for nothing ? think it got to Jan this year and he realised Inter was as good as it was going to get, and at 17m fee he would still get a very nice deal himself.

I could be wrong. I'm just trying to apply some logic, not go against what seems like logic - of Levy being all about maximising the deal - to do the shittiest deal possible. If my theory, and it is only a theory, and only presented as a theory is wrong, I'll accept it and say so. Until then all we've got is the usual newspaper tittle tattle.

Eriksen might have even given Poch and the club the impression he might be prepared to sign a new deal and Poch was hoping he would. This is a link of Poch himself saying as much in Nov 2018 - months after their Copenhagen meeting:


Maybe Levy didn't out him in the summer of 2018 because he and Poch thought this was just part of the negotiation and Poch was also really wanted us to keep him? We know he did something similar with Alderweireld's negotiations and they fell out about it, resulting in Poch not picking him for chunks of a season.

But for the record, my position on this is clear and never changed, a player like Eriksen, ie a key asset, should not be allowed to run his contract past 2 years. If Levy got offered a decent price, from a club Eriksen would have gone to, and knocked it back, it's fucking stupid and I'll criticise him. But we have to bear in mind that even then you cannot force a player to sign or move. If he refuses the deal and clubs on offer, as a club he has you over a barrel.
 
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And here is your tabloid story, bus-conductor bus-conductor . Two months after Hytner's story. £80m. I am really doing my level best to be fair. Maybe his crap form contributed to the price reduction.


So it's 130m in April 2019, then two months later it's 80m ?

So me saying I thought Levy would accept less than 130m was right ?
 
But for the record, my position on this is clear and never changed, a player like Eriksen, ie a key asset, should not be allowed to run his contract past 2 years.

Correct. It would have sucked to lose Eriksen in the summer of 2018, but we took our medicine with Kyle Walker and could have done so with Eriksen as well.

If he refuses the deal and clubs on offer, as a club he has you over a barrel.

This is true, but given what we know about Eriksen's attitude and where he ended up, I think it's reasonable to infer that a deal could have been made, albeit for a price that wasn't what Levy might have dreamed of after the Neymar and Mbappe deals reset the market and Eriksen's performances in the qualifiers for Denmark made him look like a world class talent.

Eriksen was always interested in a flashy continental challenge, but he was also willing to stay at Spurs and fulfill his contractual obligations professionally as well. Levy read that as "I will either get my monster fee from Madrid or Barca, or he will sign a new contract to stay" That was the wrong read.
 
Why is a good 21/ 22 year old not for now? I'm not talking about buying 17 year olds here.

Well on face value I'm not alluding to you then......

However, there's not too many players that are already proven at the highest level at 21 that wouldn't also cost the earth.

Look at the potential cost of TAA for example.... (Only a vague guide, but....): Trent Alexander-Arnold - Player profile 19/20 - 99m!!!

We tried to buy De Jong.... Decided to stay put and went to Barca for 70m.... De Ligt 70m-ish...

AWB: One decent season at Palace..... Still a gamble and cost 50m.

Meanwhile, PEH has youth on his side and is EPL proven and he's sneered at by many here.

Unless you can guarantee trophies, then 40m gets you Sanchez..... 60m gets you Ndombele.....

Crazy money in a crazy market.
 
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Feels good to think that everyone is as disingenuous as you doesn't it BC? So good that you even happily admit to being a scoundrel right here. Trump's got nothing on you. But you're both proud of it. Amazing. Well not everyone can be painted with you wicked brush my man. Back to the airfixx realm you go.

Disingenuous Todd is claiming people have said or taken positions on stuff that they know full well those people haven't said or taken. Me calling you out on this a couple of times a few months ago didn't go down well did it.

You are a fucking hypocrite Todd.
 
Correct. It would have sucked to lose Eriksen in the summer of 2018, but we took our medicine with Kyle Walker and could have done so with Eriksen as well.



This is true, but given what we know about Eriksen's attitude and where he ended up, I think it's reasonable to infer that a deal could have been made, albeit for a price that wasn't what Levy might have dreamed of after the Neymar and Mbappe deals reset the market and Eriksen's performances in the qualifiers for Denmark made him look like a world class talent.

Eriksen was always interested in a flashy continental challenge, but he was also willing to stay at Spurs and fulfill his contractual obligations professionally as well. Levy read that as "I will either get my monster fee from Madrid or Barca, or he will sign a new contract to stay" That was the wrong read.

Also Stanley Stanley RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK


According to The Athletic, Spurs actually received no official bids for the 27-year-old at all.


Despite no forthcoming offers from Real Madrid or Barcelona, Manchester United did express a desire to sign Eriksen – but the player is believed to have not been interested in a move to Old Trafford.
 
John Thomas John Thomas - It's all very well you liking the above post, but you'd have shit your knickers about being a selling club if we'd sold CE having just finished 3rd.

You can deny this, but we all know you'd be lying.
Had we sold him without an agreeable nod from the manager, and purchased a quality replacement of equal standing you're right, I would have shat me pants and let the steam off on here.

But I agree with the sentiment of the post.

Daniel Levy expects and demands absolute top dollar for every player he sells, over and above the odds, while bemoaning and critcising the unsustainable transfer market he's directly contributed to creating.

I think it's hypocritical and it's a major factor in our decline since 2018
 
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