Agree with that.
I don't think many of us will stop supporting the club if we were taken over by Saudis
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I don't think many of us will stop supporting the club if we were taken over by Saudis
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I want owners that makes us successful, unfortunately there is a divide amongst us.
On one side there are people like yourself that are just happy to see the club tick over, meet a couple of mates whilst waving your scarf and rattle about.
And then there are like myself who want more from the club, certainly after 20 years of ownership.
But I suppose no one is going to agree except that we are all Tottenham fan's with differing views.
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Yes. Yes we are friendly trusting people.
Our world record ticket prices. My record breaking salary. Our world record profits.
Its all for you,
Sadly football has been sucked into the mindset I use during to see in birds I dated (and slung I should add). Buy her a box from Thornton’s for Valentine’s Day, her mates boyfriend buys them a holiday and instantly your love for them is questioned because of a comparative complex.
We don’t have owners that treat the club like a toy, people can either accept it and enjoy football for what it is or get their knickers in a twist about the reality of a self sufficient football club.
I’m not a Levy happy clapper, he comes with his flaws but I am a huge advocate for self sufficiency in all walks of life, football included so if that makes me clap happy then I’m happily clapped
There's only so many arab states in the world with money to burn; then what?
....Don't you want football to be about something other than just a battle of the wallets?
I can only speak for myself, but the day it reaches that tipping point for my club is the day I begin to rapidly lose interest.
Football stopped being about something other than a battle of wallets when sky and the EPL was formed.
I can't see you losing interest in the club mate, we might not always agree but I cannot fault your passion long may it continue.
Go on then, why are we bigger?
No idea.
I agree with you to a large degree. However, we're on a whole other level again and like I said, there's only so many Arab states to go round (whereas during the 80's and 90's we had mere millionaires running clubs)....
Trust me..... It would happen.
Success is obviously something we all crave, for people to say those that want to do it in a self sufficient way lacks ambition or desire to is foolish but without doubt I’m with you on this one, I would rather not see my club treat money and the value of organic growth with disregard but I get why some don’t care about us going down a different route to get glory.
The stability of the club for me always comes first and it shouldn’t be threatened or become unhealthy looking in a quest to want more. We have practical owners which some like and some despise, we go around in circles debating who is right and who is wrong when ultimately it’s just your own personal flavour, personal preference.
We earned that final last year through hard work and pain along the way, we earned a £52m-£62m singing buzz of Ndombele through who we are not who has injected what into the club and I like that but some won’t and some will disagree. They’re entitled to it as are us who feel differently about the game but ultimately we do all want success and I think we all share that ambition it’s just that some of us are idealistic about it and some more realistic but alas, there goes my perception of it all kicking in once again.
You see that's what winds me up a bit.
The reality is that all of us want more but some of us aren't willing for the club to go into debt to win trophies.
The rest don't care about the financials of the club and continuely scream "SPEND MORE MONEY" without a thought of where that money is coming from or the implications of getting it.
So who would you have managing us,bus-conductor ?
I'm genuinely interested.
I assume you see us as a big club.
A club that should be at least challenging for major titles and not some glorified southampton-esque development academy that people likeTotti see us.
So if neither Poch or Jose is the man. Who should Levy be appointing?
I think even more important would have been having a decent DOF in place along with a much better scouting/analytics dept for the last 5 years. I was happy with Poch as a head coach for the first 2/3 years, but being manager - and head scout, head of academy, chief analyst, and finance guru to Danny Rose - was well beyond his capabilities. It would be beyond anyone's.
We've got ourselves in this mess not just because of Pochettino's failings, but Levy's too. Up to the point where he gave Pochettino the job as head coach, Levy had largely done things really well, bar the odd blip, then he took his eye off the ball to build the stadium - a time when more than ever he should have had departmental structures in place that he could have been delegating responsibilities to - only he hadn't, he'd dismantled it, acquiesced to Poch's desire to be the next SAF, and failed to replace Paul Mitchell's analytics department too.
We are not an uber club, we cannot compete with those clubs in terms of finances - yet anyway - so it's important we do things smartly. The last 4/5 years we did things very stupidly. I think Poch was a good coach of footballers to a point, but tactically wasn't the smartest and in terms of knowing what the right footballer was, for the right tactical set up, I don't think he was very good at all. And whilst in games against most his coaching - combined with what had been pretty smart recruiting in the years leading up to his time - overcame that, as soon as we came up against the biggest tests, that inability to match up personnel and tactics let him down. So we get Chadli and Townsend in his first cup final instead of Lamela and Dembele. Then we have Son as a LWB in another semi. The shambles that was the CL final. Things like Dier and Sissoko as CM's. Moura as a CF. Winks as a DM etc etc. And much of the last 2 and half years was fucking atrocious.
There are plenty of good coaches out there, but most of all we need the right structure in place. The club needs to have an over arching philosophy of how it wants to go about things (that matches it's financial capabilities) and recruit smartly to match that philosophy, and coach and integrate our very best academy products smartly to match that philosophy, and appoint our coaches to match that philosophy.
I don't necessarily have an issue with the concept of Mourinho per se, in the mess we were in, I could see the thinking behind it, I just don't like the reality of it. Using a formula 1 analogy, our car isn't competitive any more, so we've chosen to bring in one of the best drivers there has ever been - but the trouble is, despite still winning the odd race, he hasn't won the drivers championship for many years, and what we really needed was to strip the whole car down and rebuild it, and then put a young hungry driver in it.
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There has been occasions when the club could and should of pushed on, but because of overly cautious nature of those in charge we have missed out.
Just a bit more ambition and things could be so different, it doesn't mean that we will do a Leeds just because a bit of purse loosening is applied.
Sadly, the big window for us to 'push on' recently coincided with the stadium project going into top gear (i.e. the season at Wembley following our fabled 2nd place finish).... Really fucking unfortunate timing.
That said we still tried to strengthen the squad in the necessary areas and had an improved run in the CL (last 16) alongside a 3rd place finish that season.
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Always agreed with that.
There used to be a college american football coach that would take recruits out for lunch, and if they knew how to get the ketchup out of a Heinz 57 bottle he'd take them off his list. Idea being ketchup is basically just sugar, and players who prefer it will never stay fit.
...Tastes lame tho'.
Of course, then there's this yin to that yang:
Cowboys OL coach doesn't need Heinz 57 trick with these guys
Paul Alexander will ask his players to try different things, but they won't be tapping any ketchup bottles.