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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

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VirginiaSpur said:
Hey folks, I've got some hot one-time only ITK about the Romero transfer.

It's done. To be announced in the next four days. Don't ask me how I know this; if I shared too much info it could burn my friend, etc.

Positive ratings expected/demanded. If there are any negative ratings then I won't ever give you hot ITK ever again.
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You did not say "closing in on..." plus, your sentences are not grammatical shambles and you are using punctuations, so there is no way you can be an ITK :cool:
 
Pathfinder said:
You did not say "closing in on..." plus, your sentences are not grammatical shambles and you are using punctuations, so there is no way you can be an ITK :cool:
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Pathfinder said:
Another ITK from SC. At first, I thought he was a "1tier" ITK but he's a "5 tier".
I still believe that Kound joining Spurs is almost impossible since Chelski is known to meet the asking price if they're after a player.
However, I hope this is not another Chelski trick: pretending Spurs have a chance to sign a player, let it drag on, on for them to pounce and sign Kounde with little time left in the transfer window to find another quality CB. Just speculation but we know Chelski is capable of such antics.




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What is the difference between a tier 1 and tier 5 ITK? How much effort they put in to making shit up?
 
Yorkshire_Spurs said:
What is the difference between a tier 1 and tier 5 ITK? How much effort they put in to making shit up?
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It is a reliability scale that the twitter account quoting them has developed. He's gone through a bunch of their ITK and calculated how much of it that actually happened to try to determine how reliable each ITK are.

1 is very reliable. 5 is not at all.
 
TottsAmazeballs said:
Leicester are basically Spurs with arguably better management (and who got really, really, lucky one season). There's almost negligible difference in our approaches. But, importantly I think, they got bought out later than we did. I think of it like NZ vs UK, they took over virgin territory with lessons learned from history, less bullshit to deal with and smarter choices.

[On that note, I will agree that Levy continues to make the same stupid mistake: not buying when we need that extra push.]

Leicester have also been luckier (more shrewd?) with their purchases. Tielemans was a great buy and one we were interested in. We got sneezy and dopey instead (kidding, still got hope for those guys!).

Liverpool were a bigger club than us and so they bought talent we couldn't afford. Also attracted a great manager (Klopp).

I'm not trying to argue that your point is wrong, btw, it's not. But it's not clear that ENIC and Levy have done something fundamentally stupid or wrong (except the need for a push now and again when it's seemingly going well - that's man-management and not Levy's forté). At least, it hasn't been proven to me one way or another. I'm upset at our situation too (the conte shit was a piss-taking fucking insult and I don't even live in London any more, so am not even getting an ST).

However, as a business-owner, what Levy did there was the right thing. ensuring investment to survive and afford a better season this season. If the football is good and we don't get shafted then no harm, no foul. Hard to see it that way right now, of course.

I honestly think that without Covid, we'd have been gaining further ground on our rivals with these 'portfolio investments' and that would give us the clout to invest in players at a level we see ourselves. Sadly, this is a couple of years behind now.
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Kind of agree with most of what you are saying. Only part I can't agree with is that Leicester luck.
I would say that over past 4-5 years or so Leicester track record of acquiring talent has been significantly superior to ours, nothing to do with luck. Last true and massive success story was Wanyama. After that we have not got our money worth.

20/21 - 110 mEUR - Hjojberg now seems to be on the path of astute purchase, given the price we paid for him.
But other last season purchases - Doherty, Rodon, Regulion - I'd say jury is still very much out.
19/20 - 148,5 mEUR - Clarke, Sessegnon, Bergwijn, Ndombele, Lo Celso - up to now jury still out, but for first 3 we shipped out combined of 62 m pounds, and we have got almost nothing in return, might change in the future ofc
18/19 - 0EUR - no additions
17/18 - 123,5 mEUR - Sanchez, Aurier, Foyth, Gazza, Llorente, Moura
16/17 - 83,5 mEUR - Sissoko, Wanyama, Jannssen, Nkoudou


20/21 - 58 mEUR- Castagne, Fofana
19/20 - 104,3 mEUR - Justin, Perez, Tielemans, Praet
18/19 -114,6 mEUR - Evans, Maddisson, Pereira, Ward, Söyüncü, Benkovic, Ghezzal
17/18 - 88,4 mEUR - Maguire, Iborra, Silva, Iheanacho, Jakupovic
16/17 - 92,1 mEUR -Zieler, Mendy, Musa, Slimani, Ndidi

Those made in bold are massive successes in their books. It is total of NINE slam-dunks.
I would say that Hjojberg and Castagne go into same category + before injury Wanyama was very useful for us. Even counting them we have got humiliated with score of 9:2. Totally different worlds. And EIGHT out of them are currently still playing for Foxes. Maguire was sold for 73 mEUR profit (!).
And other eight cost total of 190 mEUR but are now worth roughly 320 mEUR (!)
If we add Maguire numbers and already profits taken, it would be 204 mEUR paid and 407 mEUR worth / recouped.

Total sum spent - 465 mEUR us ; 457 mEUR them.
So literally we have spent more than them and still got miserably beaten.

If we leave Maguire out who was sold on, now tell me.
Would you rather have Fofana or Rodon?
Would you rather have Söyüncü or Sanchez?
Would you rather have Pereira or Aurier?
Would you rather have Tielemans or Ndombele?
Would you rather have Maddisson or Moura?
Would you rather have Ndidi or Sissoko?

All of them purchased during same period with total expenditure in the same region, all of them still at clubs.

Conclusion - we have not been cheap per se. We have spent the same amount of money. But Leicester scouting department has been so much more efficient and cleaver while we have more or less burned the money.

* all of the transaction and current values are based on Transfermarkt data, I did not make them up myself. If some values are over or understated I'd assume they would even out over such sample size already
 
TheSpurEst said:
Kind of agree with most of what you are saying. Only part I can't agree with is that Leicester luck.
I would say that over past 4-5 years or so Leicester track record of acquiring talent has been significantly superior to ours, nothing to do with luck. Last true and massive success story was Wanyama. After that we have not got our money worth.

20/21 - 110 mEUR - Hjojberg now seems to be on the path of astute purchase, given the price we paid for him.
But other last season purchases - Doherty, Rodon, Regulion - I'd say jury is still very much out.
19/20 - 148,5 mEUR - Clarke, Sessegnon, Bergwijn, Ndombele, Lo Celso - up to now jury still out, but for first 3 we shipped out combined of 62 m pounds, and we have got almost nothing in return, might change in the future ofc
18/19 - 0EUR - no additions
17/18 - 123,5 mEUR - Sanchez, Aurier, Foyth, Gazza, Llorente, Moura
16/17 - 83,5 mEUR - Sissoko, Wanyama, Jannssen, Nkoudou


20/21 - 58 mEUR- Castagne, Fofana
19/20 - 104,3 mEUR - Justin, Perez, Tielemans, Praet
18/19 -114,6 mEUR - Evans, Maddisson, Pereira, Ward, Söyüncü, Benkovic, Ghezzal
17/18 - 88,4 mEUR - Maguire, Iborra, Silva, Iheanacho, Jakupovic
16/17 - 92,1 mEUR -Zieler, Mendy, Musa, Slimani, Ndidi

Those made in bold are massive successes in their books. It is total of NINE slam-dunks.
I would say that Hjojberg and Castagne go into same category + before injury Wanyama was very useful for us. Even counting them we have got humiliated with score of 9:2. Totally different worlds. And EIGHT out of them are currently still playing for Foxes. Maguire was sold for 73 mEUR profit (!).
And other eight cost total of 190 mEUR but are now worth roughly 320 mEUR (!)
If we add Maguire numbers and already profits taken, it would be 204 mEUR paid and 407 mEUR worth / recouped.

Total sum spent - 465 mEUR us ; 457 mEUR them.
So literally we have spent more than them and still got miserably beaten.

If we leave Maguire out who was sold on, now tell me.
Would you rather have Fofana or Rodon?
Would you rather have Söyüncü or Sanchez?
Would you rather have Pereira or Aurier?
Would you rather have Tielemans or Ndombele?
Would you rather have Maddisson or Moura?
Would you rather have Ndidi or Sissoko?

All of them purchased during same period with total expenditure in the same region, all of them still at clubs.

Conclusion - we have not been cheap per se. We have spent the same amount of money. But Leicester scouting department has been so much more efficient and cleaver while we have more or less burned the money.

* all of the transaction and current values are based on Transfermarkt data, I did not make them up myself. If some values are over or understated I'd assume they would even out over such sample size already
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How many times did they finish above us?

Not disagreeing with your assessment, btw.
 
Get in! said:
How many times did they finish above us?

Not disagreeing with your assessment, btw.
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1) Only fucking time it really mattered... Plus they won FA Cup. They have been bigger and more successful team out of the two without any question, as painful as it is. They have League title + FA cup title. From same time we have absolutely nothing to show for :( .
2) But even that is not the point - look where they started and where they are. Look where we started this period and where we are. If we continue to get so much worse return for the money we spend, we are guaranteed to be beaten by them.
 
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