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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Sell to buy leaves us with the same thin squad issues we have every season. Thats my point. By all fucking means, buy replacements. Nothing wrong with those three being bench and utility options. They can all function in multiple roles which elevates their usefulness as squad players. Keeping them doesn't mean they need to be fixtures in the first XI. But selling them means we're still fucked trying to compete in too many competitions with a thin squad.
I get that but we have to sell someone with a value….. Royal and Winks won’t fund a rebuild. I would hope Davies and Dier sign extensions anyway and they stay. Don’t care for Lucas, would
Like to see him gone for c.25M
 
10 in / 10 out ain't happening.....
I get that but i would like to see Lucas and Son moved on personally plus 2 or 3 more eg Royal, Winks and Sanchez. That’s realistic and could create 150M, suspect we have 50/100M on top of that - perhaps a lot more if naming rights, partial stake of club creates a ‘warchest’ in which case Son stays

All of his buys at Inter increased in value and we’re a good age. I trust Conte to bring in 5 stellar players with around 250M so we need to fund that somehow

Would be gutted if Dier goes and no reason to move Davies on
 
I get that but we have to sell someone with a value….. Royal and Winks won’t fund a rebuild. I would hope Davies and Dier sign extensions anyway and they stay. Don’t care for Lucas, would
Like to see him gone for c.25M
I don't think you're funding a rebuild on the back of Dier, Davies, and Lucas either. Which was my point, their value in helping us make a cup run, a deep CL run, and requalify for the CL thanks to a deeper squad is much greater than their value if we sell them.

The only way we're funding a rebuild is selling Kane and Son. Otherwise we're treading water trying to make smaller adjustments/additions with whatever excess revenue we generate.
 
I don't think you're funding a rebuild on the back of Dier, Davies, and Lucas either. Which was my point, their value in helping us make a cup run, a deep CL run, and requalify for the CL thanks to a deeper squad is much greater than their value if we sell them.

The only way we're funding a rebuild is selling Kane and Son. Otherwise we're treading water trying to make smaller adjustments/additions with whatever excess revenue we generate.
Sooner or later we have to get some outside investment in to kick on. It’s a perfect storm to do that this summer
 
Sooner or later we have to get some outside investment in to kick on. It’s a perfect storm to do that this summer
If we get £200M* to spend on players, I'd prefer we spent that £200M on 3-4 top level players to push the squad over the hill and keep Dier, Davies, Lucas as consistent known quantity squad utility players. Much rather that than spread £250M across 6-7 players. I don't think that approach takes us forward at all.


*I don't think we'll get £200M
 
I don't think you're funding a rebuild on the back of Dier, Davies, and Lucas either. Which was my point, their value in helping us make a cup run, a deep CL run, and requalify for the CL thanks to a deeper squad is much greater than their value if we sell them.

The only way we're funding a rebuild is selling Kane and Son. Otherwise we're treading water trying to make smaller adjustments/additions with whatever excess revenue we generate.

I doubt they help in any way buying in cheap replacements probably do more to help with that and unlike these 3 plugs could have some upside value as well.
 
If we get £200M* to spend on players, I'd prefer we spent that £200M on 3-4 top level players to push the squad over the hill and keep Dier, Davies, Lucas as consistent known quantity squad utility players. Much rather that than spread £250M across 6-7 players. I don't think that approach takes us forward at all.


*I don't think we'll get £200M
Yeah not really bothered just want Lucas gone
 
I doubt they help in any way buying in cheap replacements probably do more to help with that and unlike these 3 plugs could have some upside value as well.
Cheap replacements have a tendency to flop. So you go from 3 average players to one good player, a below average player, and one complete bust that will inevitably end up having to start a crunch match due to injuries/fixture congestion.

Sorry, the best teams tend to have reliable and ever present known quantities making up their squad roles. Not a revolving cast of new maybes.
 
Cheap replacements have a tendency to flop. So you go from 3 average players to one good player, a below average player, and one complete bust that will inevitably end up having to start a crunch match due to injuries/fixture congestion.

Sorry, the best teams tend to have reliable and ever present known quantities making up their squad roles. Not a revolving cast of new maybes.

There are plenty of examples of quality cheap players that have had success. When you go for players because they are cheap not based on their talent sure they can fail but bringing in someone like Olise (8m) and Jean-Clair Todibo (8m Euros) both "cheap" players that are young and upgrades over Moura and Dier/Davies.

The problem is that takes quality scouting and we have seen under Levy and now with Paratici we don't have it.

Sticking with players that are known to be not good enough- Moura, Dier, Davies, Doherty is easier but it isn't a better approach and as we have seen by keeping around crap it sure doesn't lead to better results.
 
I get that but we have to sell someone with a value….. Royal and Winks won’t fund a rebuild. I would hope Davies and Dier sign extensions anyway and they stay. Don’t care for Lucas, would
Like to see him gone for c.25M

Ain't happening.... Same way Iggy-The-Clown saying we were gonna get 20m each for the likes of Toby and Lamela was never gonna happen.
 
There are plenty of examples of quality cheap players that have had success. When you go for players because they are cheap not based on their talent sure they can fail but bringing in someone like Olise (8m) and Jean-Clair Todibo (8m Euros) both "cheap" players that are young and upgrades over Moura and Dier/Davies.

The problem is that takes quality scouting and we have seen under Levy and now with Paratici we don't have it.

Sticking with players that are known to be not good enough- Moura, Dier, Davies, Doherty is easier but it isn't a better approach and as we have seen by keeping around crap it sure doesn't lead to better results.
Yes, you can have success. You can also have failure. As you say, our scouting has proven to be shit recently so I'm apprehensive to let go of decent squadies to bring in more that I expect will flop.

And, at the end of the day, my overriding point is that to win something this club needs 2-3 more absolute top drawer players. I'd rather we focus all our funds on this endeavor than turning over the squad of decent to good players with more of the same.

If you're going to truly rebuild, then sell Kane and Son and do it proper. If not, focus all the funds on true class and don't fuck around with the back end of the squad.
 
There are plenty of examples of quality cheap players that have had success. When you go for players because they are cheap not based on their talent sure they can fail but bringing in someone like Olise (8m) and Jean-Clair Todibo (8m Euros) both "cheap" players that are young and upgrades over Moura and Dier/Davies.

The problem is that takes quality scouting and we have seen under Levy and now with Paratici we don't have it.

Sticking with players that are known to be not good enough- Moura, Dier, Davies, Doherty is easier but it isn't a better approach and as we have seen by keeping around crap it sure doesn't lead to better results.
Dier has been fantastic this season
 
Yes, you can have success. You can also have failure. As you say, our scouting has proven to be shit recently so I'm apprehensive to let go of decent squadies to bring in more that I expect will flop.

And, at the end of the day, my overriding point is that to win something this club needs 2-3 more absolute top drawer players. I'd rather we focus all our funds on this endeavor than turning over the squad of decent to good players with more of the same.

If you're going to truly rebuild, then sell Kane and Son and do it proper. If not, focus all the funds on true class and don't fuck around with the back end of the squad.

I think we can do what you want and replace crap players as well, but that takes spending, vision, long term planning and scouting that we have shown we won't do.

I don't disagree that it is impossible to do that under Levy, but for good teams that is what they do. The top teams don't even wait to move out players when they are bad they have plans to move on from them before they are done and have their replacements in house already to go.
 
Dier has been fantastic this season

He hasn't been close to good let alone fantastic but I realize a lot of losers in our fan base want to overrate him to pretend that we are closer to competing than we are.

Facing the reality of the amount of work that needs to be done on this squad is too much for a lot of people to handle.
 
I think we can do what you want and replace crap players as well, but that takes spending, vision, long term planning and scouting that we have shown we won't do.

I don't disagree that it is impossible to do that under Levy, but for good teams that is what they do. The top teams don't even wait to move out players when they are bad they have plans to move on from them before they are done and have their replacements in house already to go.
I think the top teams are, again, working from a position of strength already in squad and academy depth. So when they see an opportunity to move on from someone down the depth chart and bring in a new prospect they do it. And as soon as that player doesn't live up to expectations they bin them and replace.

I would love for Spurs to get to that place, which is why I think we need to focus on buying the top level we need for a boost now. Then going forward we're working from that same deep squad base and can move players as and when we need.

But the constant 4 in/5 out, 2 out/3 in stuff just has us treading water with a threadbare squad exposed at the crunch of the season year in and year out. And I feel like any window with 7-8 incomings to get acclimated to the club and league is just bound to be a disaster.
 
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IMO there could well be 10 out this summer.
Ndombele, GLC, Royal, Sanchez and Rodon will definitely leave
Gil, Clarke and Winks are odds on to leave.
One of Bergwijn and Lucas will leave and it would not surprise me if both left.
Sarr will be coming in and I reckon at least one new academy player will become a proper playing member of the squad.
New buys will be a Tarkowski type and another CB, Eriksen type, Bale type and possibly a WB capable of playing either side.
 
IMO there could well be 10 out this summer.
Ndombele, GLC, Royal, Sanchez and Rodon will definitely leave
Gil, Clarke and Winks are odds on to leave.
One of Bergwijn and Lucas will leave and it would not surprise me if both left.
Sarr will be coming in and I reckon at least one new academy player will become a proper playing member of the squad.
New buys will be a Tarkowski type and another CB, Eriksen type, Bale type and possibly a WB capable of playing either side.

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