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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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ThePreacher said:
A warm up game, or friendly early in the pre-season is no measure of a teams overall strengths but today for sure we needed a player like Maddison.
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Creativity wasn't a deciding factor.

The thing that prevented us winning that game was (once again) not being very good at resisting a physical and sustained press (see Wolves & S'ton)........ This scenario was hardly suprising though:

Doh - Out of position / just back from bad injury.
Skipp - Just back from bad injury
Lucas - New position.
Dav - Out of position.
PEH - Clearly rusty.
Japh - Another that's barely played in 6 months

Also: Enter Bissouma

Even though we've seen many of the big 'faces' over the last 2 games; we've yet to line up close to our best XI.
 
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VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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Plus Doc and H are very tight…
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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Isn't all the hype and supposition surrounding an AM rather that a Winger/WF though?


I think Lucas is merely an experiment out of curiosity whilst AC waits for Spence to join the squad (and for Perisic to free Doh up from the left hand back-up duty.).

He already knows what to expect from Doh & Emerson.

Assumed immediate term WB pecking order for opening day:

RWB:

1. Doh
2. Spence
3. Emerson

LWB

1. Perisic
2. Sess
3. Doh
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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If Lucas is going to play there then the cross has to come in earlier. He was taking too long and too many touches today I thought.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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What did Conte say about Moura as RWB?
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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The AM target makes total sense now.

I've always said Lucas would be a great RWB option and It looks like Conte sees the same thing. Also looks like the RWB option is going to be between Spence and Lucas with Emerson being sold (and probably Doherty as well....or he stays as the utility 3rd choice option for rwb and lwb).
 
Park Lane Mark Twain said:
The players we have that are 25 or under:

Brandon Austen 23
Sessegnon 22
Regulion 25
Romero 24
Rodon 24
Tanganga 23
Royal 23
Spence 21
Bissouma 25
Bentancur 25
Ndombele 25
Skipp 21
Sarr 19
Devine 17
White 20
Richarlison 25
Gil 21
Kulusevski 22
Parrott 20
Scarlett 18


19 players all 25 or under, 8 of which would be classified as 21 or under once the Spence deal is confirmed.

Personally I think the painful rebuild and where we were at 2 or 3 years ago has been impressively turned around.
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It also make the lie of this narrative that Conte only goes for players for the here and now, although I feel that the buys have been extremely astute in relation to age and experience.

It will be interesting to see where our average squad age is in relation to the rest of the league after our business is done.
 
Elias said:
Conte: "I spoke to Lucas and I think [wing-back] could be a good option. In the past I made Perisic in this position. Before a winger and to become a wing-back. He has the quality. The most important thing is the player has to be 100% ready to do it."

Spurs press conference live with Conte on Lucas at wing-back and Davies injury
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He pretty much said the same about Kulu too when we first signed him and despite that (albeit for different reasons); he doesn't look suitable at all.....

As said above... My gut's just telling me it's an experiement (satisfying his curiosity as to whether it's a string that Lucas can add to his bow) and that, once we get back from SK, Spence will be monopolising his attention on that front.
 
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bus-conductor said:
Cheers. I wasn’t convinced by Moura doing his Victor Moses impression. Defensively very concerning.
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Berg would have been by far the better candidate for such a conversion..... Been saying that since Jose was still about.

Not just due to LM somewhat lacking physically (imagine Lucas v Mane or Lucas v Richarlison!); it's too late in his career to coach a free-spirited player in the traditional aspects of art of defending.... Tracking back as a winger; yes, but not outright defender-ism.
 
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Airfixx said:
He pretty much said the same about Kulu too when we first signed him and despite that (albeit for different reasons); he doesn't look suitable at all.....

As said above... My gut's just telling me it's an experiement (satisfying his curiosity at to whether it's a string that Lucas can add to his bow) and that once we get back from SK Spence will be monopolising his attention on that front.
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Yup.

But Lucas has publicly stated his desire to stay at Spurs until his contract expires, before returning to Brazil. And there were suggestions we tried to sell him to Everton and he wasn't at all keen. So Conte may be pragmatically facing up to another season of Lucas Moura.

He is a good professional, and never seems to moan about not playing much. But if our front 4 (Son, Kane, Kulu, Richarlison) stay fit, Lucas won't get that many minutes as a forward. So I can see the logic of Conte exploring whether Lucas can play as a RWB.

He has a good engine, but I worry about his defensive decision-making. And, like Coco Lamela, he often seems to take one touch too many to fuck up attacking moves.

With young players, you hope the coach screaming "play the ball earlier" can change a player's behaviour. But when a player gets to the age of Lucas or Lamela, it seems those habits are very hard to break.
 
TalkSport Transfer "Guru" Alex Crook genuinely reported a joke that Maxwell Cornet thought his move to Burnley was a loan.

the Joke was that coach "Michael Jackson" told him "you are not a loan"

Alex Crook said live on air he'd heard this from several sources

 
Airfixx said:
He pretty much said the same about Kulu too when we first signed him and despite that (albeit for different reasons); he doesn't look suitable at all.....

As said above... My gut's just telling me it's an experiement (satisfying his curiosity at to whether it's a string that Lucas can add to his bow) and that once we get back from SK Spence will be monopolising his attention on that front.
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Talking up both Kulu and now Lucas for RWB underline what we can all see in that Emerson was nothing more than a last resort there and we needed an alternative that can actually worry the opposition defence.

I think it's more than Conte satisfying his curiosity.

Lucas is clearly the weak attacking link. Doesn't have the presence, link-play, creative passing and goal threat that the other 4 possess between them.

Conte has probably sold it as you will get more minutes if you can show aptitude for RWB as you are now 5th in the pecking order (or 6th/7th with Perisic and a potential new signing).

I struggle to see Conte turning to Lucas from the bench when we are desperately chasing a goal.

As for the new signing, they don't have to be a wide forward to replace Lucas. Even if it is a Maddison-type then we will just change shape to accommodate when they are on the pitch. Either way any big money new arrival will be above Lucas in the rotation.

No reason why Lucas shouldn't back himself to outperform Doherty either - he's not exactly Dani Alves.
 
Airfixx said:
Berg would have been by far the better candidate for such a conversion..... Been saying that since Jose was still about.

Not just due to him somewhat lacking physically (imagine Lucas v Mane or Lucas v Richarlison!); it's too late in his career to coach a free-spirited player in the traditional aspects of art of defending.... Tracking back as a winger; yes, but not outright defender-ism.
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Don't think Berg had the engine for the up and down for 90 mins. Little tubster.
 
Elias said:
Yup.

But Lucas has publicly stated his desire to stay at Spurs until his contract expires, before returning to Brazil. And there were suggestions we tried to sell him to Everton and he wasn't at all keen. So Conte may be pragmatically facing up to another season of Lucas Moura.

He is a good professional, and never seems to moan about not playing much. But if our front 4 (Son, Kane, Kulu, Richarlison) stay fit, Lucas won't get that many minutes as a forward. So I can see the logic of Conte exploring whether Lucas can play as a RWB.

He has a good engine, but I worry about his defensive decision-making. And, like Coco Lamela, he often seems to take one touch too many to fuck up attacking moves.

With young players, you hope the coach screaming "play the ball earlier" can change a player's behaviour. But when a player gets to the age of Lucas or Lamela, it seems those habits are very hard to break.
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Yep just constantly play balls ahead of him and get him to square them into the box first time in training. Can't be that fucking hard!
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Interesting comments from Conte re: seeing Lucas as a RWB option.

This tallies with the idea of us going for another attacking signing - that would give us 5 top quality options to play the 3 forward positions plus Perisic and Lucas as emergency forward back-up.

So atm we basically have 4 RWB options - something has to give.

I think Emerson is gone and then depending on how Lucas adapts to the position over pre-season we may also shift out Doherty and run with Spence and Lucas. Though Doherty's supposed versatility at LWB (even though he is terrible there) may keep him around.

It will be interesting to see what the pecking order is if Spence, Lucas and Doherty are all here this season.
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Only a friendly, but Moura didn't do a lot aside from running around. Lost the ball often, and as usual ran down blind alleys.

Squad player, and early round Cup player. The end of the day he only has this season to go.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Yep just constantly play balls ahead of him and get him to square them into the box first time in training. Can't be that fucking hard!
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Especially since one of Richarlison's strengths is getting on the end of crosses.

Sess seems to have been drilled by Conte into early delivery of the ball once he gets free down the left, and Lucas would need to be similarly coached.

Doherty has always had rubbish delivery. So his game is based on making the inside run and arriving late in the box.
 
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