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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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I think the similarities stop at being left footed and from Roma, to be honest.

Zaniolo is streets above Lamela in terms of actual footballing ability. Much better on the ball, much better at carrying the ball forward and strikers the ball much better.

If I had to compare Zaniolo to anyone stylistically, it'd be Kaka.

However, I'd probably only take Zaniolo on if it's a loan with obligation to buy like the Kulusevski deal because of those question marks over his fitness/injury history.

I feel like people are against Zaniolo because he's more a dribbler than a creative player and therefore they have this belief that he doesn't solve our 'problems' against the low block teams. But it's usually the dribblers that have the most luck against the low block sides.

You can be as creative as you want but if your opponent is very well drilled, it doesn't matter how good you can pass the ball, the space just isn't going to be there to create and if it is, you're going to have to thread it through the eye of a needle.
My god was Lamela tearing it up when he was at Roma. I thought we'd signed a safe successor to Bale for sure. Basically, anybody can be any good over in Serie A and end up totally sucking in England, even Zaniolo. I'd say because of his size, he's far less likely to, but its at least possible. We should be wary of this.
 
KWP is better than all our RWB options currently.

Should have given him a chance.
I bet it'd be fun to put together a list of Spurs players who had three assists in a game for the club. I bet the list is a lot shorter than we think, and is full of some pretty impressive names.

As far as his size goes, other posters have seriously suggested Tariq Lamptey as alternatives.
 
My god was Lamela tearing it up when he was at Roma. I thought we'd signed a safe successor to Bale for sure. Basically, anybody can be any good over in Serie A and end up totally sucking in England, even Zaniolo. I'd say because of his size, he's far less likely to, but its at least possible. We should be wary of this.

Lamela was almost set up to fail instantly.

1. He was seen as a Bale replacement when he was a completely different player.
2. His fee brought high expectations
3. AVB's refusal to play him in the Premier League

Then once AVB was eventually sacked, he was pretty much injured for the remainder of the season under attack-minded Sherwood. We saw glimpses of the Lamela we signed under Pochettino but by then, he had transformed into a completely different player. He was a lot stronger on the ball but injuries meant he lost that burst of acceleration he had.

But I really don't see any comparisons between Lamela and Zaniolo.

Regarding the league, it's rare that the top top talent from Serie A leave for the Premier League, has always been the case and I am not sure why. But smart scouting should see passed any failures really.

Romero, Kulusevski and Bentancur all arrived from Serie A and have been excellent for us.
 
6ft 5" Serb.
He won't need time to adjust to the "physicality" of the PL

I don't know much about him, but I do know that our set piece defending is unfortunately vulnerable. I love Dier, but dang would it be nice to have a cadillac CCB dominating the air for us. Not sure what it would do to locker room dynamics though given Diers alleged influence within the squad. I can't imagine we would be buy someone of this caliber without the intention of starting them.
 
Lamela was almost set up to fail instantly.

1. He was seen as a Bale replacement when he was a completely different player.
2. His fee brought high expectations
3. AVB's refusal to play him in the Premier League

Then once AVB was eventually sacked, he was pretty much injured for the remainder of the season under attack-minded Sherwood. We saw glimpses of the Lamela we signed under Pochettino but by then, he had transformed into a completely different player. He was a lot stronger on the ball but injuries meant he lost that burst of acceleration he had.

But I really don't see any comparisons between Lamela and Zaniolo.

Regarding the league, it's rare that the top top talent from Serie A leave for the Premier League, has always been the case and I am not sure why. But smart scouting should see passed any failures really.

Romero, Kulusevski and Bentancur all arrived from Serie A and have been excellent for us.
Yea, sigh, AVB... you might say he lacked a bit common sense.

:avbshit:

Probably did have a hand in stunting Lamela. How much though its hard to know. Good lord did we have some lemons as coaches at that time.
 
Yea, sigh, AVB... you might say he lacked a bit common sense.

:avbshit:

Probably did have a hand in stunting Lamela. How much though its hard to know. Good lord did we have some lemons as coaches at that time.

He would start him in the Europa League, where he'd regularly play well, score goals and assist. Then he'd be completely dropped for the next league game or then completely left on the bench when we were needed something different late in games. I remember him coming off the bench against Cardiff where he set up a last minute winner and thinking he'd now get a run of games. Nope.

It was obvious AVB didn't want Lamela and we brought him in after failing to complete the Willian deal. A player that I think AVB actually wanted.

It's annoying that we seem to go through these dark times as a club before stumbling amongst something good. Juande Ramos to Harry Redknapp. AVB to Pochettino. Mourinho/Nuno to Conte etc.
 
Dribbler is a bit of a broad term. He’s not a silky dribbler, but an effective one in wide 1v1 opportunities. See the stat below. Not only highest % but way higher in # of attempts which makes it even more impressive.



That's an interesting takeaway from this chart.

All I can see is that the third highest success rate is Sissoko and that both Wolves and Villa have four players each on this list but no one from any of the top 6 teams seem to be "successful" dribblers.
 
Page 1587 and still Adama being mentioned! Is TFC now Traore Forum Continued?

That’s Mr. Traore Forum Continued to you.

Fail Kool Aid GIF
 
I watched a good deal of Wolves games last season. Traore could not displace either Hwang or Podence in the lineup despite them both being meh.

Lage would usually throw him on as a punt when they were down. When he came on, he played like a man out to prove something and usually was very selfish with the ball. Holding on far too long until whatever good opportunity he had created had disappeared. Not to mention his crosses usually ended up at the opposite touchline.

I remember only one instance where he came on to actually contribute to a goal. I could be wrong about this detail but the point is that he didn't cut it at Wolves in a role many people on here seem to think he could play for us.

He is a one dimensional player and that one dimension doesn't help in any way whatsoever.
 
Lamela was almost set up to fail instantly.

1. He was seen as a Bale replacement when he was a completely different player.
2. His fee brought high expectations
3. AVB's refusal to play him in the Premier League

Then once AVB was eventually sacked, he was pretty much injured for the remainder of the season under attack-minded Sherwood. We saw glimpses of the Lamela we signed under Pochettino but by then, he had transformed into a completely different player. He was a lot stronger on the ball but injuries meant he lost that burst of acceleration he had.

But I really don't see any comparisons between Lamela and Zaniolo.

Regarding the league, it's rare that the top top talent from Serie A leave for the Premier League, has always been the case and I am not sure why. But smart scouting should see passed any failures really.

Romero, Kulusevski and Bentancur all arrived from Serie A and have been excellent for us.

You forgot to mention Lamela was registered as handicapped


Only had 1 foot.
 
I watched a good deal of Wolves games last season. Traore could not displace either Hwang or Podence in the lineup despite them both being meh.

Lage would usually throw him on as a punt when they were down. When he came on, he played like a man out to prove something and usually was very selfish with the ball. Holding on far too long until whatever good opportunity he had created had disappeared. Not to mention his crosses usually ended up at the opposite touchline.

I remember only one instance where he came on to actually contribute to a goal. I could be wrong about this detail but the point is that he didn't cut it at Wolves in a role many people on here seem to think he could play for us.

He is a one dimensional player and that one dimension doesn't help in any way whatsoever.

Watch Wolves winner against ManUre at Old Trafford last season. Traore doesn't get credited with an assist for that because assists stats are bullshit.
 
I watched a good deal of Wolves games last season. Traore could not displace either Hwang or Podence in the lineup despite them both being meh.

Lage would usually throw him on as a punt when they were down. When he came on, he played like a man out to prove something and usually was very selfish with the ball. Holding on far too long until whatever good opportunity he had created had disappeared. Not to mention his crosses usually ended up at the opposite touchline.

I remember only one instance where he came on to actually contribute to a goal. I could be wrong about this detail but the point is that he didn't cut it at Wolves in a role many people on here seem to think he could play for us.

He is a one dimensional player and that one dimension doesn't help in any way whatsoever.
He is your epitome of “ head down , running into dead end “ type of player

I presume in medicals they check the players peripheral vision but his seems to be like a mole with blinkers on

That said , there is a tiny % of me thinking it would be interesting to see him in a spurs shirt , he’s terrified us a few times but you just know he’ll be a very frustrating player
 
I don't know much about him, but I do know that our set piece defending is unfortunately vulnerable flawed at best. I love Dier, but dang it would it be nice to have a cadillac Rolls Royce CB being aerially dominating ant the air for us. Not sure what it would do to the changing locker room dynamics though, given Dier's alleged influence within the squad. I can't imagine we would be buy someone of this caliber calibre without the intention of starting them.
3/10
Detention
 
Yeah, might have been nice to have added one or two real cock knocking first team improvers wouldn't it. I kind thought that was what the 150k Smoking Joe found down the back of the sofa might enable, to mix in with some of the more value items.
I absolutely agree with you.

Would be interesting to see how those rating our window 9 or 10 out of 10 already would rate it then.....

12/10 maybe?

:freund:
 
I watched a good deal of Wolves games last season. Traore could not displace either Hwang or Podence in the lineup despite them both being meh.

Lage would usually throw him on as a punt when they were down. When he came on, he played like a man out to prove something and usually was very selfish with the ball. Holding on far too long until whatever good opportunity he had created had disappeared. Not to mention his crosses usually ended up at the opposite touchline.

I remember only one instance where he came on to actually contribute to a goal. I could be wrong about this detail but the point is that he didn't cut it at Wolves in a role many people on here seem to think he could play for us.

He is a one dimensional player and that one dimension doesn't help in any way whatsoever.
In his defence, the time when Wolves had Jota and pre-injury Jiminez as their forwards, I think Traore got 8 or 9 Premier League assists that season. Replicating that with Kane and Son - with Conte's coaching - doesn't take much imagination.

I don't think we'll buy him. If we get him, I think we'd get him on a free in the summer when Lucas leaves us on a free.
 
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