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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Our MF 2 will be outnumbered much of the time..... Unless our 2 can trump the numbers game and the oppo's hard press by means of sheer ability, then logcally we will struggle to dominate MF proceedings.

Outnumbered in the basic sense that opponents just prefer playing 3 vs 2. Which is clearly not too much of a worry when Conte keeps playing it and our midfield players keep getting plaudits.

In terms of being bossed in midfield. Yet to see it from any team bar Chelsea. And that's because they were 4 vs 2 most of the time. A tactic that most teams won't brave against us because of our deadly attack.

I'm sure people see opponents with more possession than us and correlate that to domination.
 
Both him and Adama are crap and in no way improves our squad. Why the fick do we not just keep Gil. I”d rather we kept berg than bring any of these two. Absolute idiotic transfer logic and whoever is behind this needs shooting. Nether of these two actually start for their clubs and we want them to add quality strength in depth. Amazing!

Gil is better off getting experience elsewhere and clearly is not deemed ready by Conte. It isn't hard to understand surely.

Of Traore, I think he possibly knows he is not a starter at top clubs but the guy can pro vide disruption like few others.

My view is it's an option I would be comfortable with but can't see him starting games and whoever we bring in should ideally be able to be in the starting line-up every so often.

We shall see but I don't see Gil as a viable option..
 
Your opinion on James has no bearing on what I've been talking about. (I've not questioned it, nor am I keen on the idea myself.)


Again, I was responding to the concept of a manager's judgement being fallible and how one approaches that on a practical basis......

Surely you trust the guy until bad decisions give you reason not too?


If not, what approach DO you suggest?
Valuing Conte’s judgment, but not following it blindly.

So if I’m initially uncertain on a player (ie Rich), Conte’s approval would mean I’m behind him.
If I’ve barely watched a Serie A player, Conte’s approval would mean I’m behind him.

But if he green lights a transfer for a player whose performances I’ve watched a lot and clearly isn’t good enough, such as Dan James, I wouldn’t trust Conte on it.
 
Both him and Adama are crap and in no way improves our squad. Why the fick do we not just keep Gil. I”d rather we kept berg than bring any of these two. Absolute idiotic transfer logic and whoever is behind this needs shooting. Nether of these two actually start for their clubs and we want them to add quality strength in depth. Amazing!

I'd rather keep Gil than those 2, but if the club think he needs more game-time than we can provide him then the idea of loaning him out isn't the problem (nor "idiotic")..... It's about whom will prove a suitable replacement.
 
Again, I wouldn't say bossed. Unless we have very definitions of bossed. They didn't do anything. They probably had more of the ball than us but they didn't boss shit.

Chelsea bossed us. Completely bossed us. Until we switched things up half way into the second half.

Nothing in that Wolves game worried me one bit. Chelsea game did. They found a way to nullify us that I've not seen any team do before or since under Conte. And we still managed to come out of it with a point and two goals.

This teams different gravy.

They bossed it by controlling the flow of the game & completely limiting our ability to get on the ball and do .. well, anything. That first half we couldn't even launch a counter, they killed us. Just passed it round us in midfield & pressed us out of the game. We were so damn passive. Luckily they had no focal point & we're good at limiting chances, but we were being dominated.

Second half we improved but still .. very little chance creation & we got away with a well worked set piece which Wolves defended badly.
 
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No harm in keeping him till January, it gives him time to learn Conte's system, gives Conte time to see what he's about, could be useful next season.
Eh my point is more the decision should not be at all based upon Bentancurs injury.

If the club thinks keeping him with Conte until the next window is the right plan for his development, fine

If the club thinks loaning him out to get minutes is best for his development, fine

Whatever the club believes is best for the player should determine whether he stays or goes, not whether we need him in the bench for 1-2 matches. If we change course because of that, I don’t like it at all.
 
Outnumbered in the basic sense that opponents just prefer playing 3 vs 2. Which is clearly not too much of a worry when Conte keeps playing it and our midfield players keep getting plaudits.

In terms of being bossed in midfield. Yet to see it from any team bar Chelsea. And that's because they were 4 vs 2 most of the time. A tactic that most teams won't brave against us because of our deadly attack.

I'm sure people see opponents with more possession than us and correlate that to domination.

Perhaps some might, but that's not what I'm doing.....

We struggled in MF and lost against Brighton last season... We dropped 5 points vs Saints last season for similar reasons.... Wolves gave us a torrid time at WHL last season too (although their goals were gifts). Even if it isn't a weekly occurrence, it's not exclusive to us facing the Chavs or similarly top quality players.
 
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Valuing Conte’s judgment, but not following it blindly.

So if I’m initially uncertain on a player (ie Rich), Conte’s approval would mean I’m behind him.
If I’ve barely watched a Serie A player, Conte’s approval would mean I’m behind him.

But if he green lights a transfer for a player whose performances I’ve watched a lot and clearly isn’t good enough, such as Dan James, I wouldn’t trust Conte on it.

Mate, again.... Your opinion on the player (or mine) isn't pertinent to this discussion.

The trust I'm talking about is the club.... They're the ones in a position to veto; not us.
 
It just seems sort of inevitable that if we do sign Traore or James that they will be surplus to requirements in 12 months and we'll be trying to farm them out somewhere, probably on endless loans as no one will pay a fee. Really suprised their Serie A contacts cant find better.
 
Ross Barkley was released by Chelsea. Worth looking at on a free, there is a player in there.
Funny how we're all suddenly getting stalkers and moist fannies again over mediocre dross.......just because they could be free transfers and contract dwindling bargain buckets.

We're a CL club for fuck sake. We're fucking minted. We have the highest match day revenue in Europe.

Surely we should set our sights a little higher?
 
A real shame that after a most un- Tottenham like positive start to the window it looks like just fizzling out and almost left hoping that nothing else happens and we keep Gil, given the alternatives. Still think we're a couple of good first team level players shy of any sort of sustained challenge.

Yep agree.

I'm content at the general strength of the squad but think like you we are 2 light.

What I will be very frustrated about is if we see any players at so called lesser clubs in positions where we are either short or not as good..

At present it's hard to say because we wanted a central midfielder (bought), wing backs (bought), a striker (bought), a goalie (bought).

And yet despite that I just think we are missing something. A bit weird really and I do believe a Zaha or a Traore might be good for us. Just something that is unpredictable, which I think we lack, and one more central midfielder.
 
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They bossed it by controlling the flow of the game & completely limiting our ability to get on the ball and do .. well, anything. That first half we couldn't even launch a counter, they killed us. Just passed it round us in midfield & pressed us out of the game. We were so damn passive. Luckily they had no focal point & we're good at limiting chances, but we were being dominated.

Second half we improved but still .. very little chance creation & we got away with a well worked set piece which Wolves defended badly.

Not really how I remember it, but okay. I remember whenever Wolves had the ball, they'd get it wide and not do much with it but attempt shots from distance. I wouldnt really call that bossing. We didn't create much in the first half but we certainly had the ball.

But they probably didn't even complete many more passes than us in that half. They were just quicker on the ball than us in general.

I certainly wasn't worried throughout. Like I was against Chelsea.
 
Perhaps some might, but that's not what I'm doing.....

We struggled in MF and lost against Brighton last season... We dropped 5 points vs Saints last season for similar reasons.... Wolves gave us a torrid time at WHL last season too (although their goals were gifts). Even if it isn't a weekly occurrence, it's not exclusive to us facing the Chavs or similarly top quality players.

But we also beat Brighton twice. Putting five passed them in the process. It was just one of those games.

Again, our issue is that we're usually too slow on the ball and not brave enough. Not that we're dominated. When the opponents have the ball they just tend to use it better than us before we nullify their attacks.

And that was certainly our problem at home to Brighton. Not enough width by our wing backs, meaning we were far too narrow and slow in possession. Sadly Brighton took their chance at the end.
 
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