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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Tomo said:
That is good but there will come a point Conte has to prove it. He is a great manager but historically similar to Jose (1-3 years) if he is genuinely going down the Pep/Klopp route then We can look forward to him signing a new long term deal.
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Sure, but there's no sense driving ourselves mental with self-imposed, weekly 'will he / won't he' mental torture between now and May.

We saw at Chavski.... He won't sugar coat his words.

No guessing games required.

Tomo said:
The nature of this window is decent but does not really fit a Conte 1 year dash for the title particularly against this current City team but it’s perfectly reasonable for a 2-3 year start.

We will be a mess if we build a team for Conte only for him next year to fuck off. Another rebuild again for a new manager albeit from a decent start point.
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Again; everything he's said - both before and after the window - points to the idea that he's at peace with it not being so.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
Oh god, has the 'we don't want to do a Leeds!' evolved in to a 'we don't want to do an Everton!' now?
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Oh yee of short memory.

........It's a legit thing to reference considering the entirety of the Moshiri era we've been told that they were constantly "embarrassing" us and 'beating' us in the trf window..... Even though they barely scraped top half and are now relegation botherers.

(Also see Villa last summer & WH in recent years.)
 
Airfixx said:
Oh yee of short memory.

........It's a legit thing to reference considering the entirety of the MOshiri era we've been told that they were constantly "embarrassing" us and 'beating' us in the trf window..... Even though they barely scraped top half and are now relegation botherers.

(Also see Villa last summer & WH in recent years.)
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There is no risk of us doing an Everton unless we spent ludicrous amounts of money (like .... over 400 million net) because we are far wealthier and have loads of FFP wiggle room. Unless doing an Everton is just spending on crap? In which case nobody wants that.
 
TheSpurEst said:
Now I am open and will receive all kind of names and reactions... BUT...

Looking at the list of free-agents... let's say if Barkley would be filled with sporting anger to prove Chelsea wrong and would be really interested in playing (some little minutes of) Champions League football...

Would it be worst idea to offer him, idknow, say 60 kpw to get him on 3 year deal?
Our max risk would be 9,36 mEUR... and if he'd find his feet, we could maybe even sell him for similar amount after 2 years making his total cost to 0 ?!?
Most likely he can find better offer from some EPL club more desperate - Villa/Palace/Leicester/Fulham who would pay him 100 kpw or even bit more. In which case I would not consider going into bidding war.

But if he would be interested in proving himself and join for the amount I quoted - what do you guys think? Could he be worth the risk or rather not?
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This gets asked every window with some failure or another and the answer is always the same.

No.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
There is no risk of us doing an Everton unless we spent ludicrous amounts of money (like .... over 400 million net) because we are far wealthier and have loads of FFP wiggle room. Unless doing an Everton is just spending on crap? In which case nobody wants that.
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Conte will want the 'right' players...... It's not like the amount spent was that caused him to strop out at Chavski.

Sure; no-one actively wants crap players, but a large chunk of the players (ahem) scouted by the arm-chair pros here turn out to be duds if they ever reach the EPL...... Daka & Soumarre being the latest few to add to the list (see today's Lester/Rodgers news feed)... Castagna being another who hasn't lived up to the hype either.
 
Airfixx said:
Sure, but there's no sense driving ourselves mental with self-imposed, weekly 'will he / won't he' mental torture between now and May.

We saw at Chavski.... He won't sugar coat his words.

No guessing games required.
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That’s fair but as we are discussing the merits of the window, the context of our situation, our managers and that of our rivals is part of the assessment.
 
Airfixx said:
Conte will want the 'right' players...... It's not like the amount spent was that caused him to strop out at Chavski.

Sure; no-one actively wants crap players, but a large chunk of the players (ahem) scouted by the arm-chair pros here turn out to be duds if they ever reach the EPL...... Daka & Soumarre being the latest few to add to the list (see today's Lester/Rodgers news feed)... Castagna being another who hasn't lived up to the hype either.
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Been injured a lot, hasn't he? I quite liked him when he first came in. Same with someone like Pereira who (sadly for him) is just broken.

But yeah I agree it has to be spent on the right players. But the real issue for Everton right now (and what I thought was being referred to) is that they're in a vice due to FFP. Can't spend at all without selling. That wouldn't be a problem for us even if we tripled our spending this window.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
Been injured a lot, hasn't he? I quite liked him when he first came in. Same with someone like Pereira who (sadly for him) is just broken.
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Don't think he's shown the same quality as Pereira tbh......

Raumdeuterz said:
But yeah I agree it has to be spent on the right players. But the real issue for Everton right now (and what I thought was being referred to) is that they're in a vice due to FFP. Can't spend at all without selling. That wouldn't be a problem for us even if we tripled our spending this window.
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Sigurdson: Ageing, 50m + big wages (big fish small pond; struggling to deliver).

....Sound familar? (Zaha...... Main man > 5th choice.)



Big money on mediocre players thinking they were buying quality depth..... Walcott, Bolasie + loads of others.

There's lessons to be learned.
 
GGTH said:
Will evolve to "doing a Leicester" soon. Turns out spending beyond your means has consistently proven to be a poor idea in football history.
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Championship team whose spending got them in to the Premier League where they won a league & FA cup & had some big European runs.

Pretty sure their fans won’t call it a poor idea, unless they collapse entirely, which they will not. They stay up this season and end up mid-table.
 
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