Is it me ... but does this thread seem to come around quicker and quicker each year ...
Think it's our sense of desperation that creates the illusion.
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Is it me ... but does this thread seem to come around quicker and quicker each year ...
As has been said many times, the skill is not identifying decent players - if you can’t do that in the age of data you really should go and find another job. The skill is putting together a balanced team in which the parts complement each other. And Lange has shown zero ability to do that.
He was surely influential in getting Frank, no? A man he’s knows for years and he thought could work with a squad constructed to play Angeball?And you cant bring balance, if you keep shifting managers. He joined in Nov 23 as technical director before getting promoted to sporting director... how many managers we have had since ?
How many managers Villa had since ? 1
Players he got in are good players on a given day - thats all is that I am saying. He isnt a manager picker.
And no body can pick easily using data. I doubt many Sporting directors buy Jhon Duran scoring 8 goals in 27 games from chicago fire for 14m - He did that and paid of by selling him for 64m with 50m profit.
Why? Because he failed at Everton as a kid?
Lange record is not bad at all interms of identifying players.
Watkins, Rogers, Jhon Duran, Emiliano Martinez, Buendia, Diaby, Cash - core of the Villa side was signed under him.
Like him or not for his role in bringing in Frank, persisting with Frank, brining in Tudor - he identifies players.
Jhon Duran from Chicago Fire and selling him to Al Nassr for 64m was just phenomenal
Infact, if Duran is not so expensive in transfer fee & salary, I would happily get him as no9. Cant do much wrong with him still at 22.
I'm 45 but feel like it's such an effort not be 15, tbh.
Other than a complete inability to lay in anymore. Fuck sake.

Agree with bit in bold
IMO Lange's blind spot is 'squad building' that means spending money on the right player at the right time.
One of the best examples of that is buying Gray for £40m in June 2024 having also signed Bergvall who signed that summer, both aged 18 and I like both players for their likely good futures - but for example Bergvall did not make his debut until Christmas in that season as he was very raw. What we needed that season was at least one experienced good midfield player. In June 2024 Newcastle sold Anderson to Notts Forest at about £35m ........ he's probably one of the best DM's with good passing abilities in PL right now and aged 23 - that's the player Lange should have signed who would have helped us a lot more for last 2 seasons and next few seasons, and probably worth £60m - £80m already.
And I'm sure there are other good examples.
He was surely influential in getting Frank, no? A man he’s knows for years and he thought could work with a squad constructed to play Angeball?
If not for deals like that Villas FFP issues would be a lot worse than they are
Why? Because he failed at Everton as a kid?
He wouldn’t be my choice but there is a lot of upside to him. He seems to have matured as a player and person and he has the physical gifts to survive in the PL, and scores with both feet and his head.
You worded it slightly vaguely to be fair. I read it as you saying he had no involvement in picking managers, hence my reply.And I guess you didnt read what I said ?
I said he is not a manager picker and he failed at it
You want to go back and read again ?
Van Hecke and Van de Ven pairing would be decent.
White Van Men.
Then we can park the Van

£63m for an "OK" striker just to send him out on loan twice afterwards certainly has a bit of a whiff about it imo.
Serie A is dogshit at the moment, so you have to factor that in. But his physical profile is what you’d want in a PL striker currently. Big enough to fight with defenders who are allowed by refs to assault forwards, and quick enough to run in behind on transitions.Wikipedia says 27 goals in 58 appearances for Fiorentina. Good numbers.
Men with Ven, Jeremy.Van Hecke and Van de Ven pairing would be decent.
White Van Men.
£63m for an "OK" striker just to send him out on loan twice afterwards certainly has a bit of a whiff about it imo.
I'm 45 but feel like it's such an effort not be 15, tbh.
Other than a complete inability to lay in anymore. Fuck sake.
If Joe is your Uncle are his kids your cousins?We're all kids, no matter how old we are and they are uncle Joe's kids.
And they're incredibly green at being involved in football, so young in that aspect too.
The thing is Serie A was close to the level of the PL in the 00s and Shevchenko came here. He just had too many minute s in his legs to adapt and lost a yard or two.There's a LONG list of strikers who couldn't score in Serie A and didn't magically become good in the PL, but an even longer one of players that looked prolific in Serie A and did a good Jozy Altidore impression in the PL. Dare we include Shevchenko in a list that has Zirkzee, Hojlund, Jovetic etc