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I think 30 for Orban is too high for someone with his experience and level. Just one season in a top flight league? Janssen had a similarly impressive output given he was in a harder league.

I’d say 20 + 15 in add ons. Maybe 5 of those for scoring 10 goals, another 5 if he hits 30 goals, and 5 if we qualify for the CL in the next 2 seasons. That would be fair and recognise the risk. If he can’t score 10 goals for us in his career then he’s not even worth 20m!
 
To be honest, I think we're covered on the striker position. I have faith in Richarlison, and I would love to see Scarlett (and Veliz) get som game time too.

We're also covered in midfield - even with Højbjerg leaving, we have Madders, Bissouma, Skipp, Bentancur, Sarr and Lo Celso to cover three midfield positions. I know, we only have two AMCs but Kulu can work in the middle too if necessary.

I believe we're missing a right winger as backup/competition for Kulu. And, most importantly, we need another CB. Cuti and VdV is not enough - Sanchez and Dier as backups is way too risky. Why we aren't all over Laporte is beyond me.
 
I said before we Levy won’t pay £30 million for Orban if we are actually in for him. If we are then this will drag on until the very end of the window till we get it down to about £20 million with add one but the likelihood is it will fall thorough.
I’ve read that he’s only in the Belgian league but the goals don’t move. He’s a goalscorer and he scores all different types of goals. He also has a great touch and very quick. Those types of players will find it easier stepping up levels because those are the main attributes a striker needs to succeed. I’d love to see an exiting player like him come in but I honestly can’t see it happening. I hope I’m wrong.
 
nicoclaesen said:
I said before we Levy won’t pay £30 million for Orban if we are actually in for him. If we are then this will drag on until the very end of the window till we get it down to about £20 million with add one but the likelihood is it will fall thorough.
I’ve read that he’s only in the Belgian league but the goals don’t move. He’s a goalscorer and he scores all different types of goals. He also has a great touch and very quick. Those types of players will find it easier stepping up levels because those are the main attributes a striker needs to succeed. I’d love to see an exiting player like him come in but I honestly can’t see it happening. I hope I’m wrong.
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« The goals don’t move » - what does that mean? It’s clearly easier to score goals in some leagues than others.

I scored a hat trick at the weekend. Do those goals move?

There are also concerns that he avoids any sort of physical challenge. How will that hold up in the premier league?
 
LeParisien said:
« The goals don’t move » - what does that mean? It’s clearly easier to score goals in some leagues than others.

I scored a hat trick at the weekend. Do those goals move?

There are also concerns that he avoids any sort of physical challenge. How will that hold up in the premier league?
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Yes the goals don’t move. Not talking about the shit level you play at. He is playing professional football so the step up is easier when he has every attribute you want in a forward. I’m not saying he’d come in and play every week and score 30 goals. The physical side is one of the things that will take time to adjust to because going up the levels defenders are more aggressive,no how to use their bodies better and their positioning is better. I would like him but I’m more in the Vlahovic type of striker where he has that physical prowess but has all those other attributes to his game. Orban could be a hit or miss but he’s exciting. I don’t believe he will be our player come the end of the window though.
 
LeParisien said:
I think 30 for Orban is too high for someone with his experience and level. Just one season in a top flight league? Janssen had a similarly impressive output given he was in a harder league.

I’d say 20 + 15 in add ons. Maybe 5 of those for scoring 10 goals, another 5 if he hits 30 goals, and 5 if we qualify for the CL in the next 2 seasons. That would be fair and recognise the risk. If he can’t score 10 goals for us in his career then he’s not even worth 20m!
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Well to be fair Erling Haaland spent half.a season banging in goals for RB Salzburg in a worse league then the Belgian.

Now with that being said I am not saying this kid will be Erling Haaland but what I am saying is this kid is very very talented, he passes the eye test every single day and most importantly his numbers are insanely good.

The way the current market is 30M for a player who can potentially be worth 100M+ is a risk I would be willing to take if I am Spurs.

He is only 21, If he don't work our then at 25 you could still sell him for 30M+ with relative ease. Just look at what a dud of a player like Solanke went for when he left Liverpool.
 
nicoclaesen said:
Yes the goals don’t move. Not talking about the shit level you play at. He is playing professional football so the step up is easier when he has every attribute you want in a forward. I’m not saying he’d come in and play every week and score 30 goals. The physical side is one of the things that will take time to adjust to because going up the levels defenders are more aggressive,no how to use their bodies better and their positioning is better. I would like him but I’m more in the Vlahovic type of striker where he has that physical prowess but has all those other attributes to his game. Orban could be a hit or miss but he’s exciting. I don’t believe he will be our player come the end of the window though.
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If you can do it for one season in the Belgian league then you’re worth 30m? Come on mate, no one serious believes that. There’s no way you think he has « every attribute you want in a forward » at a top class level. You’ve probably never seen him play.

There is a lot of risk with this kind of signing and he could be amazing or he could be Vincent Janssen. Gent’s price needs to reflect that. We don’t need more Sessegnons clogging up the squad thanks.
 
LisbonLion1906 said:
Well to be fair Erling Haaland spent half.a season banging in goals for RB Salzburg in a worse league then the Belgian.

Now with that being said I am not saying this kid will be Erling Haaland but what I am saying is this kid is very very talented, he passes the eye test every single day and most importantly his numbers are insanely good.

The way the current market is 30M for a player who can potentially be worth 100M+ is a risk I would be willing to take if I am Spurs.

He is only 21, If he don't work our then at 25 you could still sell him for 30M+ with relative ease. Just look at what a dud of a player like Solanke went for when he left Liverpool.
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If he turns out like Patson Daka would you see it as money well spent?
 
LeParisien said:
If he turns out like Patson Daka would you see it as money well spent?
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In todays market? yes. Especially for a EPL club like Spurs who are very well equipped financially. For Sporting for example its an enormous risk but for you guys not so much. 30M is pennies in todays market.

As you said, maybe he turns into Daka.

Or

He goes to one of Ajax, Sporting, Benfica, Dortmund, Brighton does insanely well and now if you want him your going to have to pay 100M. Just look at what Evan Ferguson would cost if you wanted to get him for Brighton. He has shown nothing to be worth a high valuation yet but I have no doubt he would cost 100M.

I can't predict if he will be great or not, but for 30M I believe its Worth a punt. The potential is clearly there. He has finishing ability that you don't teach especially in someone so young.

Goncalo Ramos just went for 80M to PSG and I believe Orban would score more goals than Ramos did if he played for Benfica.
 
LeParisien said:
If you can do it for one season in the Belgian league then you’re worth 30m? Come on mate, no one serious believes that. There’s no way you think he has « every attribute you want in a forward » at a top class level. You’ve probably never seen him play.

There is a lot of risk with this kind of signing and he could be amazing or he could be Vincent Janssen. Gent’s price needs to reflect that. We don’t need more Sessegnons clogging up the squad thanks.
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Their price doesn't need to reflect that. Of they think he will score another 30 this season, they can gamble that his value will rise or at least stay constant. We can gamble that we can rely on Veliz, Scarlett and Richarlison.
 
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LeParisien said:
If you can do it for one season in the Belgian league then you’re worth 30m? Come on mate, no one serious believes that. There’s no way you think he has « every attribute you want in a forward » at a top class level. You’ve probably never seen him play.

There is a lot of risk with this kind of signing and he could be amazing or he could be Vincent Janssen. Gent’s price needs to reflect that. We don’t need more Sessegnons clogging up the squad thanks.
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Whats your plan? 130m for Ferguson? Lewandowski on a 4 year deal?
 
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