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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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A 31-year old Koulibaly vs a 24-year old Tapsoba. Bit of a difference there.
He played off the left or right for Portugal at the WC. Ideally he plays of a CF, though.
Spot on.
That's why we cashed in on Deli.......erm....Dier........erm.....Hugo......erm......Jan.......no,wait.......Toby.......eh......Harry......goddamnit........ Eriksen...... when we had the chance.
I think the whole being in CL, Europa League or Europe in general attracts better players myth is fully debunked. Most will go to whoever agrees to pay them.
'Having had conversations with Daniel Levy': Simon Jordan drops Tottenham transfer bombshell
Simon Jordan says even Daniel Levy thinks Harry Kane has had conversations with Thomas Tuchel about a transfer to Bayern Munich.
With Harry Kane’s contract running down, it has been suggested that the 29-year-old had a ‘meeting’ with the Bayern boss about making a switch to Germany.
Whilst Tottenham fans might have seen that as media transfer rumour nonsense, former Crystal Palace owner Jordan, who is friends with Daniel Levy, thinks the above scenario has taken place, but after previous ‘conversations’ with the Spurs chairman, he thinks Bayern Munich will have to move ‘heaven and earth’ to sign the England captain, as he told talkSPORT.
On one hand, Levy holds the key because if he doesn’t want to sell his star man, then he isn’t going anywhere, just ask Manchester City.
But, on the other, in January 2024, Harry Kane could easily sign a pre-contract agreement with Bayern or sign for another Premier League club for nothing next summer.
All in all, unless the Premier League goal machine signs a new deal at Hotspur Way, talk about his future will only continue, as Simon Jordan was asked whether situations, such as Kane’s meeting with Tuchel, actually happen in the footballing world.
Harry Kane
“In the real world, it happens all the time,” said Jordan. “If Daniel is upset, then I would remind him of how he did it to me with Wayne Routledge.
“But the bottom line is that I would be surprised if it hasn’t happened and I am pretty sure Daniel will be surprised if it hasn’t happened, whether he likes it or not.
On if he thinks Kane has met Tuchel: “Oh, yeah. I would think so. It’s not a secret meeting because it’s all over the national newspapers, but I would imagine that happened. I would imagine, if a manager like Tuchel wants to get a player like Harry Kane, then he would have no compunction.
“I think they have to move heaven and earth if they think they will get Harry Kane for £80-100 million, then I don’t think so. It’s predicated upon having had certain conversations with Daniel Levy, but also looking at it through the prism of what the worth Harry Kane is to Tottenham if the main pursuit is the top four.”
Power with Levy…for now
Over the years, Spurs fans have been critical of Levy for not pushing the boat out in the transfer market.
But one thing the English businessman has always done is do things his way and his way only, and it’s always caused a debate.
But his stubborn nature will now put a smile on Tottenham fans’ faces because if he doesn’t want to sell Kane, then he isn’t going anywhere this summer, regardless of what money is offered.
Seems like a bad move for all involved.If true....
‘Liverpool make €200m offer for Mbappe’ after Real Madrid drop out of 2023 running
Spanish TV outlet El Chiringuito claim Liverpool have made a €200m bid for Kylian Mbappe, and if thats enough information for you to ignore this, feel free.uk.yahoo.com
‘Liverpool make €200m offer for Mbappe’ after Real Madrid drop out of 2023 running
Will Ford
Thu, 6 July 2023 at 11:34 pm CEST
Why pay 200m for a player to live in Romero's pocket? And what about that situation would appeal to Mbappe?
I was more thinking about the younger guy getting games.
Please sign him NOW!Micky van de Ven: A 'Cruyffian' talent, a 'fighter' & set for the Premier League?
By Alex BysouthBBC Sport
Last updated on51 minutes ago51 minutes ago.From the sectionFootball
Micky van de Ven captained Netherlands Under-21s during their recent Euros campaign
There was a time, not so long ago, when it seemed Micky van de Ven was surplus to requirements at a club in the Dutch second division.
That the 22-year-old Wolfsburg defender is now being touted with a move to the Premier League, with Tottenham heavily linked, speaks volumes of the player and the project that enabled the talented defender to flourish.
Van de Ven earned his breakthrough at Volendam following Wim Jonk's appointment in April 2019, with the new regime implementing the same 'Plan Cruyff' principles that proved successful at Ajax.
The teenager had been told by the previous management he was down the pecking order and free to look for another club, but was immediately handed a contract by Jonk's staff, who spotted a "raw diamond" in their under-19s.
Van de Ven quickly grew in stature at a club focused on playing attractive football, creating a performance culture and developing young players through bespoke individual programmes.
Within six months he was a regular starter in the first team in the Dutch second tier.
"We look differently," explains Volendam director Ruben Jongkind, the former head of talent development at Ajax who was responsible for writing and implementing Plan Cruyff.
"We have a lot of experience with youngsters. We look at strengths and we saw a Cruyffian defender - a lot of risk taking, incredible speed, I have never seen something like that.
"We also saw defensively he was a little bit weak, especially in agility, one-on-one defending, heading, some things in the tactical area. They are things we could work on.
"His special weapon was already there. I worked at Ajax with fast players, but this was incredible."
That pace was tested in a 60m dash.
"He ran seven seconds flat," laughs Jongkind, who has a background in athletics. "After a training session, with a standing start!"
Van de Ven's development in Volendam, a fishing village 18 miles north of Amsterdam, was swift. He racked up 48 appearances over two seasons and captained the 'The Other Orange'.
"We absolutely believed in his abilities," adds Jongkind. "We have worked with Matthijs de Ligt, Noussair Mazraoui, Sergino Dest, Toby Alderweireld, Sven Botman, good defenders.
"We knew the level he could reach potentially. That is basically the same trick we did at Ajax between 2010 and 2016 - to see the strength of the players, the potential and help them develop in the right environment.
"We worked a lot on him. He gained 10kg, tactically he became much stronger. Mentally he was already strong but he gained a top-sport mindset, training hard and taking care of himself. His heading improved a lot, technically he improved."
A landmark transfer ruling
Without the financial resources of Ajax, however, Volendam operate a sustainable transfer policy based on discovering "high-potential talents" and eventually selling them on.
Van de Ven had interest from top clubs in Spain and elsewhere, but it was Bundesliga outfit Wolfsburg who signed the defender for £3.15m two years ago in a transfer that was consequential for Dutch football.
After Volendam rejected initial bids from Wolfsburg and Marseille, the player and his agent at the time, Mino Raiola, took the club to court seeking a dissolution of his contract on the grounds of an "irreparably disrupted working relationship".
They argued a move would significantly improve his sporting and financial position.
The Arbitration Committee of the KNVB (Royal Dutch Football Association) ruled in Volendam's favour and the club held out for a higher fee, as well as a healthy sell-on percentage of his next transfer.
Jongkind, who believed the player would one day be worth about 50m euros, says it set a precedent for clubs in the Netherlands, whose young prospects could otherwise be picked off on the cheap.
A 'great boy' with 'extreme speed'
Van de Ven was clocked as the fastest central defender in the Bundesliga last season
Van de Ven had to be patient during his first season in Germany, not helped by a hamstring injury, but played 90 minutes in all but one Bundesliga game as Wolfsburg finished eighth last term.
The Dutchman's pace, now the subject of a viral online clip in which he runs the length of the pitch to make a goalline clearance, saw him clocked as the quickest centre-back in the league, registering a top speed of 22.3mph.
"Left foot, extreme speed, plays every second," is how Wolfsburg's managing director for sport Marcel Schafer summed him up, adding he has shown "incredible development".
Standing at almost 6ft4in and predominantly featuring as a central defender, the versatile youngster also started six of 36 appearances in all competitions at left-back.
Compared to other centre-backs in Europe's top five leagues, according to fbref.com, he ranked highly for progressive carries and successful take-ons and above average for pass completion (87.7%) and progressive passes, but lower on tackles, clearances, interceptions and aerial duels.
"Micky is a great boy, a really good footballer," added Wolfsburg boss Niko Kovac.
'He is such a winner, a fighter'
According to fbref.com, Van de Ven compares similarly to Bayer Leverkusen's Edmond Tapsoba, another player Spurs are reportedly interested in, and Clement Lenglet, who spent last season on loan in north London from Barcelona
Van de Ven was called up to the Netherlands' preliminary World Cup squad last year but is yet to make his senior debut, instead captaining the under-21s during an ultimately unsuccessful Euros campaign in Georgia this summer.
"He is such a winner, a fighter, he doesn't want to lose, never, he will give everything," explains Jongkind. "Off the pitch, he is growing as well.
"He was very young when he was with us and also needed to develop his personality off the pitch, you need that when you play in the Premier League."
If that is to be at Tottenham, he appears to fit the mould for an Ange Postecoglou side looking for a left-sided centre-back expected to play expressive, attacking football.
But Van de Ven has also been linked with Liverpool, who appointed former Wolfsburg sporting director Jorg Schmadtke in January.
Either way, a Premier League move will both benefit Volendam financially and prove validation for the work taking place at the Eredivisie club.
"He is the kind of player who needs the challenge," adds Jongkind, who always believed the youngster was destined for the top. "He fought hard to get where he had to be.
"We have tracked everything very carefully because these kinds of transfers will help Volendam enormously.
"For such a small club, something in the formula must be right - it is inspired and stimulated by Johan Cruyff, so it must be good!"
Never watched him, but he's the bollocks.
Who said we can't? Do you even know what the budget is?
Romero will miss 10 at least via injury / suspension.
£20m + Hojbjerg
It's known externally as well
So he is guessing. He knows nothing.
Absolutely correct. This champions league pish annoys me. Sign with a club because they are in the champions league only guarantees 6 games of football or less if you are injured or don’t start doesn’t make sense. Money makes sense to players so let’s not be kidded.
Both Badi and Kouli are pure LCB. Tapsoba plays RCB as well. VDV also LB.
Koulibaly was considered top 5 CB itw at the time arguably and at 31 expected to play every game.
I’ll meet you here: VdVs agents seem very active and involved. I could see them telling us that he only comes of we can offer him first choice. Maybe that could be at play.
But from a club perspective, we have 1 CB that’s good enough, we need to sign 3 more to have a competitive squad. You don’t do that by build that squad by signing back ups and starters
If we buy three new 1st team CBs this transfer window I'll eat my own arse.
We didn't do that even when we planned to play 3atb last summer
Either of them worth that?