Yeah, that's literally what happened with Kim Min-Jae and Kvarasomethingorother.
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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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I hear you.... I get the impression he's pretty sulky and petulant though.
If he wants to watch the Euros, I'm sure there will be a channel over there that will be showing it.
I joke, I joke, I wish him the best obviously, and if a move nearer to home gets him back in the England squad then good luck to him.
I would have said the same, watched a lot of Skov Olsen the last few yrs, wand of a left boot, but as the kids are saying these days, he just doesn't have that dog in him. And we really shouldn't be signing another forward player that isn't a strong dribbler/runnerI think Andreas Skov Olsen is better.......and wtf is that music
I guess the problem is that for every Kim Min-Jae, Kvara and more 'locally' Eze, Olise etc, there are 10 Janssens, N'Koudous, Jack Clarkes, Ryan Sessegnons etc (I may not have chosen the best examples but you see my point) - who you then struggle to move on, and end up letting them leave for nothing or next to nothing. Of course both we and other big clubs do exactly that - but you can only buy so many of them, you can just buy all of the 'barely discovered talent'. Sometimes you strike gold, sometimes you don't. And it's all very well saying 'scouts should identify the best ones' etc, but it's not as easy as that, not for anyone. Even players like Salah and De Bruyne were thought not to be good enough at points quite well into their careers before truly 'clicking'...
So whilst it's easy retrospectively to say things like 'we should have got Kim M-J before he really hit the big big time', we only know how good he is now, it was never guaranteed that it was going to happen back then.
(Not criticising you by the way, you've not said that above at all - but a lot of people do seem to think that way, focus on 'the ones that got away who we should have signed' without realising you need to buy 10 or more prospective talents to get one of those very successful ones...)
And everyone made the same comments about stepping up a level etc.
He got homesick in Manchester. I doubt he'd want to leave London
So was Maddison LOLWith all this recent talk about punchable faces ...... right up there
Yeah, No, Defntely.
It's amazing how Levy could pull the wool over those two's eyes and get Harry to sign a 6 year contract isnt it?
No wonder he thinks he's got a good chance of convincing those two to get the player to stay on longer.
Interesting.....just looking at YouTube there doesn't seem much of a difference in physique, speed or running between the two
And as you say Olsen's left peg is magnificent
According to what/whom?
I don’t see the argument for that at all. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one!
Yeah see I’m just not seeing it. His touch is ok at best, not liquid like you’d want from someone taking the ball in the positions he’ll plan to.
I find his passing pretty average as well, it’s generally shipping the ball to someone without having any real impact on progressive patterns, and whilst there’s an element of that as an inverted FB he’s going to have to take the ball under pressure in the middle of the park with an awareness of where he’s being pressed from. He’s going to have to play one touch football under pressure and rely on his touch when pressed.
These are not Emerson Royal commodities.
Feels like I’m in the minority on this from the comments, and let’s hope I’m wrong - but I see nothing good coming from Royal playing inverted FB against any team with a decent sort of press.
Disaster waiting to happen for me.
Any reason we couldn't get both?
I doubt that fee and wages would be an issue. If only one of them works out, we flip the other and maybe break even on him, but we're left with one asset who either adds to the first team, or we make a decent profit from if we end up selling.
For the money being touted for each, I don't see a downside to bringing both in.
That's true, and you have to go into this kind of approach in the knowledge that not all will work out, however, if you're taking the punt before they make it big then the fees involved are generally small enough that those that don't work out can be flipped for similar fees to what they signed for, and if you do strike gold with even just one of them, then that can more than pay the cost of the failures in the long run.
The likes of Clarke and N'Kouddou that we've had here aren't really a huge problem, it's the Sessegnon and Janssen type transfers that are, they were "punts" to an extent but that wasn't reflected in the fees paid for them.