Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

[Starks]

Here is my answer to your original line of enquiry.

I merely pointed out that Mitchell had done a good job; (along with others I have also mentioned)

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No.

Paul Mitchell in particular did a great job.

He was put on gardening leave for 18 months and constructively dismissed."

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I think Paul Mitchell did a decent job, yes.

But that's not really got anything to do with your original post or my response. I thought you had cherry picked specific transfers that were evidently downgrades on their predecessors.

There have plenty of instances where we've upgraded on a player or the team.

Can we upgrade on Kane? Nope. Can we upgrade the team as a whole? Absolutely. We've proven to have done so in the past.

 

[Kosher Kid]

Who cares? Being a big name doesn’t guarantee success.

Let’s take a look at our best players in the last decade or so.

Modric
Bale
Kane
Son
Eriksen
Dembele
Toby
Jan
Maybe Walker

None were big names when they were signed.

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I agree with that statement regarding this list of players.

It is also worth noting though that many of them ended up unhappy, agitating for a transfer, being under paid once they became a world class talent at the club and being blocked from joining the club of their choice.

Berbatov should be on your list btw. Probably Carrick too.

 

[Bouncer]

....And in typical fashion; self-owning in spectacular fashion.



It's a good thing these aren't real police as you'd be facing a 10 stretch at best.

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Please guys pack it in and get behind the club.
COYS

 

[Shadydan]

Not sure how you can get a disagrees for this. It’s literally what happened!

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I mean it is but is just incredibly selective because he's conflated about 3 different transfer structures in one and put them in the same boat.

Who essentially replaced Winks, Sissoko, Bergwijn, Lucas, Alderweireld for example...?

 

[Kosher Kid]

I think Paul Mitchell did a decent job, yes.

But that's not really got anything to do with your original post or my response. I thought you had cherry picked specific transfers that were evidently downgrades on their predecessors.

There have plenty of instances where we've upgraded on a player or the team.

Can we upgrade on Kane? Nope. Can we upgrade the team as a whole? Absolutely. We've proven to have done so in the past.

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I agree with you here.

It is impossible for Spurs to improve on Kane.

My reference to Mitchell was an acknowledgement that the recruitment at Spurs has been decent at times and which I asserted was the point you were trying to make.

Frank Arnesen also did a great job in my opinion.

Comolli was fifty fifty. Some good some bad.

I think Paratici has also done well.

Levy sells all Spurs best players in the end.

He's created the environment for that to happen.

 

[Shadydan]

I thought you wanted to keep him & risk losing on a free?

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Yeah that was earlier in the window when stupid prices were being mooted, now the window is drawing closer and we are this far into the Bayern transfer they are offering more (still not enough IMO) I think it's time to sell.

 

[HenryHotspurII]

Imo it is very simple. The squad needs a rebuild. Kane isn't signing a new contract and has a year left at which point we get £0 and he likely goes to a PL rival.
Selling him now is the best avenue for us and let's us tackle the rebuild we have needed for a while now.
The argument that keeping him gives us a shot at top 4 is valid but even with Kane, like last season, we were found sorely wanting. Kane doesn't even suit Ange's preferred system.
It is now all about getting as much money for Kane as possible and if Levy and his ego pushes it to the extent Bayern walk away and we are left with nothing then he has failed. It is as simple as that.

 

[Kosher Kid]

Please guys pack it in and get behind the club.
COYS

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They circled the wagons on me and I could either avoid answering them or answer them respectfully and honestly.

Not looking for trouble.

 

[GGTH]

I agree with you here.

It is impossible for Spurs to improve on Kane.

My reference to Mitchell was an acknowledgement that the recruitment at Spurs has been decent at times and which I asserted was the point you were trying to make.

Frank Arnesen also did a great job in my opinion.

Comolli was fifty fifty. Some good some bad.

I think Paratici has also done well.

Levy sells all Spurs best players in the end.

He's created the environment for that to happen.

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That's just the reality of football, there's a hierarchy of clubs with Real Madrid and Barcelona at the top, and players always want to go up. Levy didn't invent it, he's also not the reason why Spurs aren't at the top of the pyramid.

 

[Airfixx]

I think Paul Mitchell did a decent job, yes.

But that's not really got anything to do with your original post or my response. I thought you had cherry picked specific transfers that were evidently downgrades on their predecessors.

There have plenty of instances where we've upgraded on a player or the team.

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Indeed; we can all play that game

Toby > Kaboul.
Vert > Dawson (Still love ya Daws!)
Bentancur > Sissoko
Walker > Hutton
Son > Andros
Dele > Paulihno
Bissouma > Winks
Maddison > GLC
Romero > Knackers yard edition of Toby
Eriksen > Tom Carrol


Then again; you're talking about someone who insists that we "cashed in" (to a grand total of 3.5m - wow!!!) on all three of Toby, Jan & Rose in their prime.... (despite all 3 being ready for the knackers yard!)

Can we upgrade on Kane? Nope. Can we upgrade the team as a whole? Absolutely. We've proven to have done so in the past.

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Yup.

 

[Airfixx]

They circled the wagons on me and I could either avoid answering them or answer them respectfully and honestly.

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You're so massively full of shit.

...Even people who (in their lack of wisdom) agree with you; you end up calling brainwashed.

 

[Confusius]

You don't rip up players contracts. The best case is you pay them the remainder of what you're contracted to pay them. I doubt any player takes less than that unless they know they're walking into a new club. I suspect the very best we can do is terminate their registration with the club and carry on paying them until they get picked up by a new club.
But realistically, if we're not getting a fee, and we're still paying their wages, we're better off just not giving them a squad place but keeping the registration.


All of it.
And the grand total is.......

About treefiddy



Announcement at the same time City announce Gvardiol.
Stealing their fire.

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Our media team!

 

[Kosher Kid]

That's just the reality of football, there's a hierarchy of clubs with Real Madrid and Barcelona at the top, and players always want to go up. Levy didn't invent it, he's also not the reason why Spurs aren't at the top of the pyramid.

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He's part of the reason Spurs cannot progress.

As supporters we should not accept the sale of the club's best players or the decline in standard of the squad generally since Levy's decisions have been pivotal in that decline.

ENIC have done well off the pitch for Spurs and had a period from 05 - 15 where they got more right on the pitch than they got wrong.

We've been going backwards for a while now.

Levy is to blame.

He needs to go.

Levy would sack Levy for consistent failure, over a sustained period, on this level.

Which other top 4 club would employ Levy to run their clubs using the methods he has used?

 

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[GGTH]

He's part of the reason Spurs cannot progress.

As supporters we should not accept the sale of the club's best players or the decline in standard of the squad generally since Levy's decisions have been pivotal in that decline.

ENIC have done well off the pitch for Spurs and had a period from 05 - 15 where they got more right on the pitch than they got wrong.

We've been going backwards for a while now.

Levy is to blame.

He needs to go.

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Alright but that's different than blaming him for players wanting to leave us for megaclubs.

 

[Kosher Kid]

You're so massively full of shit.

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Ignore mate.

You know it makes sense.

It get's personal with you every time you get frustrated.

And here's me with a yellow for an ambiguous comment..... I think.

 

[Kosher Kid]

Alright but that's different than blaming him for players wanting to leave us for megaclubs.

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Kane wants to leave because he cannot achieve what he needs to at Spurs in the time he probably has left at the very top.

Harry Kane has given Spurs everything he has, for 9 seasons, in good will.

He has wasted the last 4 seasons of his career playing horrible football, for a club he loves, who have minimal ambition to win.

Kane wanted to win with Spurs.

It isn't his fault that can't currently happen.

 

[SouthCoastSpur]

Meh. He may never play a single minute for us. Hard for me to get excited by that one I am afraid.

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True but its the sort of business we should constantly be doing every window or so.

Investing for the future. Not all will work but some will.

 

[Deuterz]

Ignore mate.

You know it makes sense.

It get's personal with you every time you get frustrated.

And here's me with a yellow for an ambiguous comment..... I think.

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My theory at this point is that the anti levy posters are much less likely to foul vote people unless it gets really nasty.

 

[GGTH]

Kane wants to leave because he cannot achieve what he needs to at Spurs in the time he probably has left at the very top.

Harry Kane has given Spurs everything he has, for 9 seasons, in good will.

He has wasted the last 4 seasons of his career playing horrible football, for a club he loves, who have minimal ambition to win.

Kane wanted to win with Spurs.

It isn't his fault that can't currently happen.

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That's different than blaming Levy for selling all of our best players. I don't agree that the club has zero ambition to win things, I think the club hired Mourinho and Conte specifically because they wanted Kane to win things at Tottenham, and unfortunately that didn't work out for a variety of reasons (Mou had a horrible squad, Conte was a little bitch).