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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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Knows his system - yes
Knows what works previously in various leagues - yes
Knows what players at his current disposal work in his system after 3 friendlies and 1 match? No change
Knows if his system works in the premier league where he's never worked and never faced as much competition - not yet.
My hope is that he is flexible enough to drop or move players if they're not succeeding at what they're doing and flexible enough to change his system if it becomes exploitable.
It doesn't make a lot of sense outside of betting on the ESL making ffp a non issue or Saudi buying players every year. They are not being clever or conning they system, the system just takes a little bit of time to catch up..That's what makes it even more backwards, to stand a chance of optimising their income streams they have to be getting into Europe, and obviously the spending spree is designed to get into Europe too as that's the most obvious measure of success alongside trophies (which bring Europe anyway).
So if they're not getting into European competition then this spend has failed essentially, not even considering the financial necessity for it.
And yet, this splurge does not fall in line with the rules of the European competitions that they're doing it to get into... seems like a case of not just shooting yourself in the foot, but blowing your entire lower leg off with a shotgun.
I'd laugh so much if after spending all this money to get back amongst it in the CL, they qualify and are immediately told to fuck off by Uefa and expelled from the competition, thus unable to keep up on their payments, falling into administration and finally (FUCKING FINALLY) expelled from the league and wound up entirely.
Tottenham Hotspur FC have the best stadium in Europe, the best training facilities, a history of winning before our current owners, one of the highest revenues in world football, one of the best profit margins in world sport, we used to have the best striker in the world….
“The level below” is an excuse. If the fans accept that winning isn’t a priority target, then that’s a conscious choice to accept the owners goals because winning has been a realistic goal for this club for some time.
Our worst rivals up the road have clearly set winning trophies as their goal from to to bottom of the club. What’s Levy’s excuse?
From Levy's point of view, we've already used it. Full transfers completed for Porro (£40m) and Kulusevski (£25m), Maddison (£40m), Vicario (£17m), Van der Ven (£43m), Veliz (£13m) and Phillips (£2m).
Yeah agree.
But the idea that we knew whether those players are going to work in his system already, when he’s clearly still figuring it out himself, that’s what I’m saying is fucking mental.
All he needs to do is say that we need to get players out before we bring any in and he doesn’t even need to explain to fans that the Kane money has already been spent.From Levy's point of view, we've already used it. Full transfers completed for Porro (£40m) and Kulusevski (£25m), Maddison (£40m), Vicario (£17m), Van der Ven (£43m), Veliz (£13m) and Phillips (£2m).
Yep, interest rates are soo high, we get a 3% yield over £100m of debt coverage.
Levy and Lewis are absolutely delighted at the deal.
Yep, right time right place is a determining factor...wind the clock back 1 season with someone like Zaha on a free he probably comes to us due to the attraction of him wanting to play in the CL during his career.
As it turned out we finished 8th and the only chance of playing in Europe involved a pre season friendly.
So we might not be getting any more new players this transfer window.
Never heard of him.....though his name rings a bell.
Again, if you are talking about winning the league, then I suggest we agree to disagree - despite coming close a couple of times when punching above our weight, it's a very long time since we started a season in (say) the top 3 favourites to win the league. So I'd argue it has not been a realistic goal for a very, very long time.
If you mean cups, I would argue that we have simply been incredibly unlucky in the last 10 years or so. Statistically it's bonkers that we've been good enough to get to so many finals and semi-finals, yet haven't had the bit of luck or good performance on the day that we needed to win one.
Is there any reason that we should have less expectations than the gooners though?Again, if you are talking about winning the league, then I suggest we agree to disagree - despite coming close a couple of times when punching above our weight, it's a very long time since we started a season in (say) the top 3 favourites to win the league. So I'd argue it has not been a realistic goal for a very, very long time.
If you mean cups, I would argue that we have simply been incredibly unlucky in the last 10 years or so. Statistically it's bonkers that we've been good enough to get to so many finals and semi-finals, yet haven't had the bit of luck or good performance on the day that we needed to win one.
Plus we also have in excess of £400 million FFP leeway to play with....unheard of and unparalleled. And this is without the transfer fee received for our star player!!!
Which ever way you look at it, it's an absolute scandal. A scam.
Serious questions need to be asked about where the fucking money's going
Entirely possible.
No major investments coming in is probably the most likely outcome now.
Very sensible question. In the medium to long term, no. I don't have the stats easily available, but how many times have we finished above them in the last say 5 or 10 seasons? Yes they have won cups, but as per my last post, we've arguably been very unfortunate not to win a couple of cups in that period too.
Again, if you are talking about winning the league, then I suggest we agree to disagree - despite coming close a couple of times when punching above our weight, it's a very long time since we started a season in (say) the top 3 favourites to win the league. So I'd argue it has not been a realistic goal for a very, very long time.
If you mean cups, I would argue that we have simply been incredibly unlucky in the last 10 years or so. Statistically it's bonkers that we've been good enough to get to so many finals and semi-finals, yet haven't had the bit of luck or good performance on the day that we needed to win one.
Let's do this. Because for me it's a choice from Levy that he can't financially compete with woolwich.
Then it's a poor season ahead or certainly an average one.
For the millionth time, FFP leeway is NOT money in the bank to spend. A club could have a billion pounds of FFP leeway and still be bankrupt. Not saying that's us, of course it's not, but FFP does not equate to spare cash available to spend, so is only one factor to consider. Why do you continue to struggle so much with the concept of FFP?
See, not sure I agree. I have faith in Ange and these players to have a good season but that's why Levy's attitude is so frustrating. Imagine what they could do if the owner wanted to go the extra mile for the football team.