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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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GGTH said:
Depends on where he wants to go, I doubt any CL team would have problems paying what we'd want for Lloris, maybe if he wants to go to a smaller French club it would be a barrier.
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It's blatantly a case of:

CL club - Well you can slip us a few quid too (which evidently wasn't a problem for Lazio)
Smaller club - No fee cos they'll need the dosh to cover his ig wages.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Reckon we should hijack the Spam's move for Kudus tbh. Very good player, can play in a few positions up front, reckon we could swoop in with £40-45m and get it done before they know wtf is going on. Rather take a punt on him than Johnson, even if Johnson helps solve the HG issues we've got.
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They're more likely to spend than we are AND can offer him Uefa Cup football.

Right as Rain said:
Seen a lot of people that want Sanchez to stay now, and for Dier to leave. Assuming Tottenham sign another CB this window, this debate is between who gets to be FOURTH choice CB.

Both these players’ contracts expire next summer in 2024. Spurs has two confirmed offers from Galatasaray and Spartak for Sanchez, while Dier has none. Is the difference in quality between these two that big, to the point where the club should be rejecting £8-12m offers for Sanchez just to force Dier out of the door one season early?

There is no denying that Sanchez is probably the better of the two for this system, but in a season where minutes for FOURTH choice CB will be very scarce, is it worth it to reject guaranteed money for Sanchez when both will be out of contract next summer? The difference between Dier and Sanchez isn’t that much anyway, and for me Dier is better on the ball than him

It’s a no brainer for me, i’d much rather keep Dier for one more season as 4th choice and take the money for Sanchez. Apologies for the essay
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I don't like either of them, but at least Sanchez makes mistakes actually trying to defend.
Dier may, on the surface, look like he makes less mistakes but the truth is, he's so passive he may as well not be playing.
It's a bit like Winks and his successful pass completion rate. When the passes are mostly to the the nearest player and under no pressure, it's hard a surprise when player 2 is trying ambitious passes to team mates.
 
TottsAmazeballs said:
Starting to feel like 'Player Power FC'. Why has it come to this?

No don't tell me... I can guess.

EDIT: Does this happen at other clubs as much as us? I never check other forums so would have no idea.
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I previously made a list of 15 or so Chavs, Utd & Arse players you could apply this struggle to (outstayed their welcome, ran deals down, left on free etc.) in recent seasons so yeh... It can and does.
 
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We're obviously waiting to sell players before buying new ones. Which is what we always do. It's one of the reasons we miss out on players who end up reaching their potential elsewhere pricing us out of the move.

The Levynomics just don't add up. There's no rule in football that says you can't have 35 players. You can only pick 25 for your squad, but you can have as many on the payroll as you see fit.
Levynomics dictate that we need to sell, probably to get the maximum transfer fee rather than being perceived to "need" to sell.

The issue with this is we're missing chances to upgrade the team, sometimes at good prices. That failure to upgrade is holding us back and THAT is costing us at least as much money as buying the players we need and just cutting the loss on the ones we don't.

But the idiot just can't see it.
 
Matt1882 said:
We're obviously waiting to sell players before buying new ones. Which is what we always do. It's one of the reasons we miss out on players who end up reaching their potential elsewhere pricing us out of the move.

The Levynomics just don't add up. There's no rule in football that says you can't have 35 players. You can only pick 25 for your squad, but you can have as many on the payroll as you see fit.
Levynomics dictate that we need to sell, probably to get the maximum transfer fee rather than being perceived to "need" to sell.

The issue with this is we're missing chances to upgrade the team, sometimes at good prices. That failure to upgrade is holding us back and THAT is costing us at least as much money as buying the players we need and just cutting the loss on the ones we don't.

But the idiot just can't see it.
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And the wage bill of those 35 players is still far lower than our peers so we should just steam ahead. Maybe Ange is cool and wants to see what he’s got and is taking the mid term view, reinforcements can come later
 
GGTH said:
Depends on where he wants to go, I doubt any CL team would have problems paying what we'd want for Lloris, maybe if he wants to go to a smaller French club it would be a barrier.
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Yeah but realistically, what Champions Legaue club would want Lloris? He hasn’t been at that level for a long, long time.

And as you say you can be sure some lower French teams may want him but then when Levy asks for 2 mil or whatever they say nah, no thanks.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Wasn’t the window longer last summer as well?
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Closed 1/9 as usual.

Richard Arlison said:
Either way, only 2 left on 30/8. The rest of them would have been out by now
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A couple more perhaps.... Not the rest... We have more to deal with.......

If we pull the plug on LLoris and Dier, whilst Tanganga and PEH leaves (as expected), that's 7 out vs 8 out last year. Much of a muchness. I'd guess Spence ends up somewhere too.

Surely if the above 5 or 6 leave we've loads of space?

The only important element of the timing is IF it proves to have stood in the way of anything else happening and as has been the message for the last 3 weeks....... It's futile to prematurely judge that before the window is closed.

Does anyone know that actual numbers re: how many we'd need to sell to accomodate any new payers?
(...Or are we all riffing solely on the basis of Ange saying our focus was turning to trying to shift some?)



The big pain in the arse is Ndom & Reg..... They look like dead food at this point.

I won't pretend that having unregistered players lying around is optimum, but if the effort to get rid fails? ......Pay them off? We can do that any time we want; that's not constrained by the trf window and has been said all along, you may as well TRY to fnd a more financially beneficial solution whilst there is a window to operate in. The five guys I mentioned above are the most moveable parts that may play into further purchases... These two are just fucking hard work and were always going to be.



People telling themselves that our dead-wood was worth circa 100m back in June were f'kn mental!
 
It’s really sad, I think this is our best chance at a top 4/cup run in years.

Chelsea in shambles, United in transition (last year with Glazers), Liverpool rebuilding, Newcastle not fully complete

all of those teams are going to be way way way richer and more capable than us in next summer’s transfer window, and will likely continue to leave our spending behind

But no, we’re unable to sell one fucking player other than Harry Kane for over 2 months, and as a result we haven’t gotten Ange what he needs to challenge the top of the league.

Shambles.
 
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