Because we played pretty deep last season, and had a shit attack.
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They weren't worried about that at all, in fact like QPR they actually could avoid paying the fine so long as they were in the PL, if they were to drop back down in Champ then the fine is active (Leicester spent most of their time in the PL negotiating it down from £30m to just £3m). I don't know if by settling they then wouldn't be investigated by UEFA also, or whether UEFA doesn't bother with 2nd tier???
Yep totally agreed, I’d add the other component of it is given how much defending Forest did I assume he did a ton of this on the break, and if he’s running down the wing on a counter attack by definition he won’t have runners near him.
From an article sounds like there are financial reasons: “However, there is also financial fair play (FFP) to consider. Forest will be permitted losses of £83million over three years by the end of this coming campaign.
It is that which would make Forest consider selling Johnson, which would have more of an impact on Forest’s finances given his status as an academy product means any sale would represent pure profit — significant when it comes to how FFP losses are assessed.”
But I agree and said similar above… if he’s really that good, he has a long deal, why not hold out for Grealish money?
Hercules
“Our interest goes back two years. Involves couple our players, and at least one player. Ange rates him, but I don’t”
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Oh fuck off Hercules you soppy cunt!! Not once did you mention Johnson until the major journalists linked him properly tonight. Constantly does this and those clowns at SC all give him likes… “thanks Herc” …. “Awesome Herc”
Cunts!!!!!!!
I’m wouldn’t be too sure that Al-Khelafi is going to be too vociferous on stringent application of FFP.
Four of the big six EPL clubs that joined the ESL have American owners. I don’t think UEFA is spoiling to pick a fight with any of them anytime soon.
Yep I know Football Legaue can't do anything whilst Club is in PL, QPR basically thought they were untouchable whilst they were in PL with an FFP fine levied at them.
I'm not so sure UEFA is motivated by kicking out the biggest revenue-generating Clubs but I do think they would dearly love to receive a sizeable fine in their bank (one that Chavs are only to willing to pay as they have factored into the costs of doing business). I would agree that a ban is a deterant (so long as it's multi-year) but history suggests they don't get issued.
If we want to be in europe next season, we likely need to buy several HG players to get a decent sized squad (particularly given some u21's will need registration).
Its rare to be get more than one quality HG per summer, so option of buying one this season and one next is far more likely to be possible than a couple next summer. So its good squad planning to buy now - IF a decent player is available at an acceptable price.
Which unloved shitty little Chelsea is not.
Guys, you're just wrong on this. Everything Chelsea is doing is trying to skirt around the edges of FFP. They have some (stupid, undercooked) notion of combined squad value that they are trying to maximize relative to the constraint imposed by FFP, under the theory that it is therefore the "best" squad.
Many more managers will suffer the consequences of the fundamental flaws in this concept.
They are the 8th highest earners in the World, they should drop to 9th this season (whilst we jump them into 8th).
Chelsea expects to breach PL P&S in 23/24 it will be important to at least be within shooting distance of the target £105m because being very far away will only increase pressure for a high tariff punishment including sporting (ie points) sanctions.
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I agree, it all seems very unrealistic on their part. However, I'm very jaded at this point, I expect them to get away with it.
Poor performance on the pitch might be the only "justice" we get.
It’s a good point that the definition of a violation is over a multi-year period and a little tough to pin down when looking from the outside.
But the financial rules are almost a sideshow here. I just don’t see this strategy leading to success on the pitch in the first instance.
They’d need to qualify for the CL to be banned from it. I suspect they can manage that, but they’re well down the queue of City’s challengers IMO.
Really?
I’ve seen a few Palace games last season and he doesn’t seem to stand out compared to Olise and Zaha. He was good, but didn’t strike me as special.
Grealish has special attributes.
Something interesting about Johnson - we’ve been wondering why data-led clubs like Brentford Chelsea and us have landed on him as a target despite his disappointing fbref stats
Well, 3 statistics where he leads the PL below:
Seems to me that, if the article about Ange and Gabbiani working together is true, maybe one of the request was a direct winger who can run with the ball at speed, who is a big threat in behind the defense, and can chip in with goals and assists from out wide. And crucially he’s someone who makes a lot of off ball runs to open up space and stretch the defense.
The Johnson profile actually does seem like a good fit for the team on paper. It’s just that the further you get away from the pitch the better he looks, and that always worries me in a player.
What exactly does fewest pass options post carry mean? Does that mean that on average Johnson has the fewest people to pass to after he's run with the ball?
Is that a good thing?
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Veiga ended up going to Saudi Arabia, what a waste.
No really, but it's more a reflection of Forest more than anything. You could make the case that it recontextualises his poor passing numbers.
From Sky: “With the help of tracking data, we can now see the total number of passing options that are available to a player when making a pass. Team-mates are considered passing options if the expected completion rate of that pass is at least 80 per cent.
This data tells us that Johnson has the fewest average number of options available to receive a pass when he is in possession”
The implication is really a glass half full. The glass half empty view would be the above quote fromNorthernSpur that he’s just a runner who finds himself in blind alleys, the glass half full one would be
GGTH interpretation, that he’s often unsupported on his runs and with more options around him he’d be a lot more dangerous.
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So interpreting this stat is still ambiguous and would need visual scouting and context.
It is interesting that he’s such an outlier for three seemingly quite different stats atop three quite lists of players.
Not good or bad, just interesting.
