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JDefoe said:
This is an interesting post actually, and one that I’ve debated back and forth on myself for a bit.

a) this is a disingenuous post about City considering that Pep started Leroy Sané and Raheem Sterling for their glory years - and more importantly, that they just signed Jeremy Doku who is the definition of a running quick winger. Madrid use Vinicius, Bayern Sane/Coman, etc, Scum use Saka/Martinelli etc

b) it does however get to the heart of the issue which is what profile is actually best for us. Son is very fast and gifted at getting in behind, but he isn’t really that quick (in short spaces) anymore and isn’t going by players 1v1 easily.

Grealish and Mahrez while lacking long pace are 1v1 takeon masters.

It seems to me that what we need is invention and the ability to both stretch a defense with pace and drive at the defense with skill and guile and make correct decisive actions.

C) I actually don’t know what our future matches and struggles will look like. Compact defenses can still leave gaps for players to run into in semi-transition: there will absolutely be space for Johnson’s pace and running to be used on a quick switch or on an overload with Sarr/Porro flanking him.

In short I think pace is secondary to 1v1 brilliance and that’s why Eze is my long term favored target for the wide areas, but that Johnson has the potential to be a weapon against parked busses and be much more than a runner for us
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Can Johnson do tight 1v1?
 
Get in! said:
Again, how would a new striker change the fact that Richie has taken only 4 of our 57 shots on target?
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May be a new striker can be better involved in play, create their own chances and not always rely being setup with open goals, may be note lose the ball as much, stay onside, stay on your feet, anything else? No way can you think richi is a proper goal scoring CF.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
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We're not even close to third for net spend. We've based our spending off selling one of the best players to ever wear our shirt.
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Net spend chat

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LeParisien said:
The biggest complaints should really be around the style of play and the managerial appointments which have been really bad. I’ve been critical of Levy for those things.
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Besides this being the transparent propaganda line ("oh lovely, he fixed it! Problem solved! All the bad things are behind us!"), I also very much disagree with it on substance.

Jose in 2019 and Conte in 2021 were elite managerial appointments. Because elite managerial appointments were relatively cheap public distractions from the collapse of the squad through criminal, unprecedented underinvestment and negligence.

Neither was ever going to give us pretty football. But both performed as well as could have possibly been expected with the resources they were given, and both would have performed better with an improved squad. And of course, both went out exactly the same way as Poch, as a scapegoat for Levy's ideological commitment to under-resourcing the team relative to its competitive goals.
 
LeParisien said:
People accuse me of being condescending but both you and FightingIllini FightingIllini are seemingly unable to respond to very clear and basic English. You have both accused me of dogmatically defending levy in a post where I said:

“The biggest complaints should really be around the style of play and the managerial appointments which have been really bad. I’ve been critical of Levy for those things. It’s a serious failure of leadership.”

At some point I stop engaging because you’re unable to read very clearly expressed ideas.
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Style of play is not on Levy. His biggest failure is the inability to spot an opportunity and seize it, as well as a complete lack of leadership

He’s also less authentic than a Real Barcelona short from China.
 
FightingIllini said:
Besides this being the transparent propaganda line ("oh lovely, he fixed it! Problem solved! All the bad things are behind us!"), I also very much disagree with it on substance.

Jose in 2019 and Conte in 2021 were elite managerial appointments. Because elite managerial appointments were relatively cheap public distractions from the collapse of the squad through criminal, unprecedented underinvestment and negligence.

Neither was ever going to give us pretty football. But both performed as well as could have possibly been expected with the resources they were given, and both would have performed better with an improved squad. And of course, both went out exactly the same way as Poch, as a scapegoat for Levy's ideological commitment to under-resourcing the team relative to its competitive goals.
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The original post was from April. Nothing was fixed then. The post now is to say that FOOTBALL MOVES QUICKLY. We now have a manager who is trusting young players and playing attractive football and everyone’s happy. Things move quickly.

Does Levy deserve credit for the manager hire? Of course. But that’s not really the point.

If you think Mourinho and Conte did as well as they could have then that’s cool. Maybe that’s true given their limitations as managers but we never saw players become significantly better or evidence of coaching to make the team better than the sum of its parts. We saw that under Poch and we are seeing that now under Ange.

I’m delighted about that.
 
Zomb said:
Style of play is not on Levy. His biggest failure is the inability to spot an opportunity and seize it, as well as a complete lack of leadership

He’s also less authentic than a Real Barcelona short from China.
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When you hire Mourinho, you don’t get attractive football. The fans singing “we’ve got out Tottenham back” yesterday seem pretty happy with the style of play the coach is embedding.

I am too. Gréât work ange.
 
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