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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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Can't really agree with that.
If you put a microgram of cyanide in a gallon of water you won't taste it or die.
If the water is 9 parts cyanide and 1 part water you're gonna die pretty quickly.
Sanchez in a back four with VDV, Udogie and a RB playing well isn't the death knell.
PEH in a midfield of PEH, Maddison and Bentancur is perfectly adequate.
That team the other night was a fucking monstrosity of rejects. Too many below average players in one 11 is doomed. 1 or 2 below average players in a good side are fine.
If we get to 17:00 BST and these donkeys are still here:
Sanchez
Dier
Hojberg
Forget it.
Sanchez
Dier
Hojberg
Forget it.
The signs are looking promising, especially if we compare last season's final game away at Leeds, and this season's last game away at Bournemouth
While there is the obvious drop in quality after losing Harry Kane, the rest of the squad you'd argue has improved, whether that by via new signings or, existing players out performing last season's output
We of course have a new manager in Ange Postecoglou, taking over from interim Ryan Mason, who has brought with him a new system
We also had 5 new faces involved in the squad last Saturday, with 4 players from Leeds away no longer with the club
We still need to move on a few players, although regarding Hugo Lloris, there's talk of him 'moving up stairs'...?
If that's the case above; Lloris, Whiteman, Dier, NDombele, Reguilon, Gil, would all be seeing the exit door
which would leave us looking like this...
Tanganga and Bentancur making up the 25 (which is actually 23), leaving room for Bryan Gil to finally be given a real go at the club (24) leaving us room for one more addition that might still happen
Homegrown: 8
Forster, Austin, Tanganga, Davies, Sessegnon, Skipp, Maddison, New Player
Under 21s: 2
Udogie, Sarr
Overseas: 16
Vicario, Porro, Romero, Royal, Sanchez, van de Ven, Bissouma, Lo Celso, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Solomon, Richarlison, Son, Perisic, Bentancur, Gil
The 'upgrade' areas are debatable as everyone has an opinion on who they'd like to see replaced
| Leeds Away (1-4) May 2023 | Bournemouth (0-2) August 2023 |
| 20 Forster 12 Emerson Royal 06 D Sánchez 34 Lenglet 33 Davies 23 Porro 38 Bissouma 04 Skipp 07 Son Heung-min 21 Kulusevski 10 Kane | 13 Vicario* 23 Porro 17 Romero 37 van de Ven* 38 Udogie* 29 Sarr 08 Bissouma 21 Kulusevski 10 Maddison* 07 Son Heung-min 09 Richarlison |
| 09 Richarlison 16 Danjuma 25 Tanganga 27 Lucas Moura 29 Sarr 40 Austin 51 Craig 58 de Santiago Alonso 77 Abbott | 04 Skipp 05 Højbjerg 06 D Sánchez 12 Emerson Royal 14 Perisic 18 Lo Celso 20 Forster 27 Solomon* 33 Davies |
We of course have a new manager in Ange Postecoglou, taking over from interim Ryan Mason, who has brought with him a new system
We also had 5 new faces involved in the squad last Saturday, with 4 players from Leeds away no longer with the club
| Outs | Ins |
| Harry Kane - £86.4m + add-ons Harry Winks - £10m Joe Rodon - Loan Djed Spence - Loan Alfie Devine - Loan Troy Parrott - Loan Lucas Moura - Released Clement Lenglet - Loan ended Arnaut Danjuma - Loan ended | Dejan Kulusevski - £25m Pedro Porro - £40m James Maddison - £40m Micky van de Ven - £34.5m + add-ons Guglielmo Vicario - £17.2m + add-ons Alejo Véliz - £13m Ashley Phillips £2m Manor Solomon - Free - |
We still need to move on a few players, although regarding Hugo Lloris, there's talk of him 'moving up stairs'...?
| GK - 4 (5) - Vicario, Forster, Austin, Lloris? (Whiteman injured) | we should have 3; Vicario, Forster, Austin |
| CB - 6 - van de Ven, Romero, Sanchez, Davies, Dier, Tanganga | we should have 5; van de Ven, Romero, Sanchez, Davies, Tanganga |
| FB - 4 (5) - Porro, Royal, Udogie, Reguilon (Sessegnon injured) | we should have 4; Porro, Royal, Udogie, (Sessegnon injured) |
| CM - 7 (8) - Sarr, Skipp, Bissouma, Lo Celeo, Maddison, NDombele, Hojbjerg (Bentancur injured) | we should have 7; Sarr, Skipp, Bissouma, Lo Celeo, Maddison, Hojbjerg (Bentancur injured) |
| FW - 5 (6) - Richarlison, Solomon, Kulusevski, Son, Perisic (Gil injured) | we should have 6; Richarlison, Son, New Player, Kulusevski, Solomon, Perisic |
If that's the case above; Lloris, Whiteman, Dier, NDombele, Reguilon, Gil, would all be seeing the exit door
which would leave us looking like this...
Vicario
Forster
Austin
Porro - Romero - van de Ven - Udogie
Royal - Sanchez - Davies - Sessegnon
Sarr - Maddison - Bissouma
Skipp - Lo Celso - Hojbjerg
Kulusevski - Richarlison - Solomon
New Player - Son - Perisic
Forster
Austin
Porro - Romero - van de Ven - Udogie
Royal - Sanchez - Davies - Sessegnon
Sarr - Maddison - Bissouma
Skipp - Lo Celso - Hojbjerg
Kulusevski - Richarlison - Solomon
New Player - Son - Perisic
Tanganga and Bentancur making up the 25 (which is actually 23), leaving room for Bryan Gil to finally be given a real go at the club (24) leaving us room for one more addition that might still happen
Homegrown: 8
Forster, Austin, Tanganga, Davies, Sessegnon, Skipp, Maddison, New Player
Under 21s: 2
Udogie, Sarr
Overseas: 16
Vicario, Porro, Romero, Royal, Sanchez, van de Ven, Bissouma, Lo Celso, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Solomon, Richarlison, Son, Perisic, Bentancur, Gil
The 'upgrade' areas are debatable as everyone has an opinion on who they'd like to see replaced
The immediate future, come the January Transfer window, could see both Davidson Sanchez and Pierre Emile Hojbjerg moving out of the club. Hojbjerg's replacement hopefully being a fully fit again Rodrigo Bentancur. Sanchez should be replaced. Of course both of these transfers may happen before the summer window closes
The longer term future isn't of too much interest as of yet, however players such as Frazer Forster, Japhet Tanganga, Ryan Sessegnon, Ben Davies and Giovani Lo Celso are just some of the players we need to be thinking about replacing in the long term
The longer term future isn't of too much interest as of yet, however players such as Frazer Forster, Japhet Tanganga, Ryan Sessegnon, Ben Davies and Giovani Lo Celso are just some of the players we need to be thinking about replacing in the long term
Define cheating? FFP rules are clearly too weak, and they aren’t bribing refs. Just proud, ambitious people trying to inspire their team to be successful. Yes their owners are brown which clearly irks you but hey, that alone is not cheating
It's also gives us a potential NDombele style issue if it all goes wrong. Chucking money around doesn't always solve problems. The overall impact of NDombele will be about £125m.
Yeah they are the three that need to be culled. All capable of outright sabotage
Things have moved on. Our peers are spending 400M net, signing 100M players like Rice, we should be in a complete state of panic. Still no outside investment, just plucky old Spurs teetering about on the periphery doing the bare minimum.
Time to sell our stadium name rights. Also, what's the going rate for selling a top 6 clubs soul at the moment? Just curious, that's all....
I feel that is a little dated, the Jan TW nowadays feels more like a mini Summer window
Look at last Jan for example:
Transfer news: January transfer window 2023 - Premier League ins and outs
Keep up to date with all the latest news with the Transfer Centre blog on Sky Sports website and app, and on Sky Sports News, across the whole of the transfer window; January transfer window closes in England at 11pm on Tuesday January 31
It just proves if you have the money which Prem teams have then there's loads of deals to be done mainly because European teams don't have the money compared to Prem teams.
So Jan could be a perfect opportunity to revisit the market for us.
I know it's going to take time to overhaul the squad (again) but cannot believe that this might be it.
The Kane money was the perfect shortcut to cutting out one of the transfer windows Ange will need, and whilst the early signs are positive, we are still fucked for depth and deficient up top.
Ultimately you expect the remit is to hit 4th or 5th (assuming coefficient aids a fifth CL spot) with no EU footie. Surely that's not the remit but on a zero net spend.
The Kane money was the perfect shortcut to cutting out one of the transfer windows Ange will need, and whilst the early signs are positive, we are still fucked for depth and deficient up top.
Ultimately you expect the remit is to hit 4th or 5th (assuming coefficient aids a fifth CL spot) with no EU footie. Surely that's not the remit but on a zero net spend.
Oh there's a fucking surprise, once again a load of grown men melting down over something that never actually happened lmao
Ya'll need to stop doing this, you believe anything you read purely because of desperation, you get used to the idea of it and when it doesn't happen you all run back to blame Levy because it aligns with your confirmation bias, it's so pathetic
So gullible, when will you lot ever learn...
Obviously a lot easier to get starts for Forest than City. Even Foden has had to be extremely patient there. But watching him play, you can see the ability is there with Palmer.
Spence is an example of a guy who played regularly at Forest but can't get a game at a bigger club. Let's hope Johnson fares a lot better if he comes.
Spexit means Spexit
Johnson and Adarabioyo should be enhancements to the squad. If Hoijberg and Perisic leave, they will also need replacing, because the drop off in those positions is awful. Both are adequate squad options.
Any club that wins more than us. Spends more than us. Or shows more ambition than us must, by definition, be cheating.
I think that's how it works, mate. .
How exactly is this a bait and switch?
Yeah I’m not against thatI feel that is a little dated, the Jan TW nowadays feels more like a mini Summer window
Look at last Jan for example:
Transfer news: January transfer window 2023 - Premier League ins and outs
Keep up to date with all the latest news with the Transfer Centre blog on Sky Sports website and app, and on Sky Sports News, across the whole of the transfer window; January transfer window closes in England at 11pm on Tuesday January 31www.skysports.com
It just proves if you have the money which Prem teams have then there's loads of deals to be done mainly because European teams don't have the money compared to Prem teams.
So Jan could be a perfect opportunity to revisit the market for us.
For me that list should be Fatty, Reguilon and Lososo. Spence, Tanganga should also be out the door long before those three.
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