Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

[Shadydan]

You are always such a condensing little prick , its always "you guys" "you lot"
I get on with most posters on here but you are really starting to grate on me, not sure who you think you are ?

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If you found that condescending then I'm not going to apologise because it wasn't addressed to you, I would probably respond in to you in the way which wouldn't upset you but seeing as you chose to throw out some personal abuse you can go jump off the Skywalk.

PM me if you have a problem with the way I speak or you can attempt to rebuttal what I said...if not don't bother responding and just stick me on ignore if my posts make you emotional, cheers.

 

[r-u-s-x]

This isn't net spend- bit misleading.

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It's clearly stated spending so why is it misleading. Net spend is a different metric.

 

[Col_McCafferty]

Where are these rumblings you speak of?

Any chance of you posting some proof?

Or is it all just complete hearsay? Like the rest of this post.

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It's a prediction of how our season will unfold, based on the lack of depth in our squad and having owners that will only ever do the bare minimum.

Don't take it so seriously.

 

[nigel6305]

We got 100 million for Kane. Our summer transfers add up to a grand total of 162 million this summer.

I’m gonna stick my neck out here and assume that we can both agree that 162 million is in fact, a larger total than 100 million.

Christ there are some numptys roaming this forum.

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OK...so we only spent 62m then ....not sure how you came to that figure of 162m, maddison 40m, vdv 42m, vicario 16m, Johnson 45m, soloman free..I make that roughly 143m...so that's about 60m after the kane money. So in premier league money terms, we spent fuck all after the kane money. So basically had no transfer budget to speak off if kane hadn't left ?
A big premier league club should be able to spend that easily, and then spend the kane money on top. But not this club, our owners plead poverty.

 

[nigel6305]

We didn't waste £50m on Johnson, that was a manager pick and he seemingly thought that we needed him more than a replacement CB, the lack of CB cover is disappointing, sure but I reckon getting Jonnson over the line took priority over the CB cover.

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Good post mate, but I just don't believe that...we needed cbs more than anything

 

[Shadydan]

Good post mate, but I just don't believe that...we needed cbs more than anything

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I think that's the perception from the outside but I don't think Ange thinks that at all going by what I've read.

 

[skywalker68]

I think Kulu maybe goes 10 and Johnson RW if Maddison gets hurt. They did more in attacking areas tbf.

Injury to a CB or Bissouma and we are in more trouble imo.

Levy was fine with that as long as the spreadsheets matched up. He’s not running a football club. He hires football people and hopes they can make him look competent.

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Levy really hasn't got any idea of football, just imagine how much more money the club could take if , the success was there, unlike the medicority that we currently have.

 

[Spursidol]

My estimate is we have spent £342 million in the last 2 years and net £184m.

07/12/2021	Sayers	Southend	0.5		18/01/2022	Markanday	Blackburn	0
31/01/2022	Kulusevski	Juventus	33		31/01/2022	Dele	Everton	0
31/01/2022	Bentancur	Juventus	16		02/06/2022	Gollini (L)	Atalanta	0
31/05/2022	Perisic	Inter	0		02/06/2022	Omole	Crawley	0
08/06/2022	Forster	Soton	0		10/06/2022	CCV	Celtic	6
17/06/2022	Bissouma	Brighton	25		08/07/2022	Bergwijn	Ajax	26.5
01/07/2022	Richarlison	Everton	50		09/07/2022	Clarke	Sunderland	2
01/07/2022	Ashcroft	Reading	0		04/08/2022	Etete	Cardiff	0.5
01/07/2022	Keeley	St Patricks	0		09/08/2022	Lo-Tutala	Hull	0.5
08/07/2022	Lenglet (L)	Barcelona	4.5		17/08/2022	Ameyaw	Southampton	0.5
19/07/2022	Spence	M'boro	12.5		01/09/2022	Lavinier	Swindon	0
16/08/2022	Udogie	Udinese	15		29/09/2022	Meghoma	Southampton	0.5
31/08/2022	Lankshear	Sheff Utd	1
						Loans		6
	TOTAL		158			TOTAL		43
25/01/2023	Danjuma (L)	Villareal	2.5		31/01/2023	Doherty	A Madrid	0
31/01/2023	Soonsup-Bell	Chelsea	1		31/01/2023	Hayton	Barnsley	0
31/01/2023	Porro	Sporting	39		15/06/2023	Danjuma L	Villareal	0
27/06/2023	Vicario	Empoli	16.5		15/06/2023	Lenglet L	Barcelona	0
28/06/2023	Maddison	Leicester	40		15/06/2023	Lucas	Released	0
04/07/2023	Egan-Riley	Man City	0		27/06/2023	Mundle	S Liege	0.5
04/07/2023	James	Man City	0		01/07/2023	Winks	Leicester	10
04/07/2023	Logan	Ipswich	0		12/08/2023	Kane	B Munich	100
11/07/2023	Solomon	S Donetsk	0		1/9/23	White	Stevenage	0
05/08/2023	Phillips	Blackburn	2
08/08/2023	van de Ven	Wolfsburg	30
08/08/2023	Veliz	Rosario	13			LOANS		3
01/09/2023	Brennan	Notts Forest	40
	TOTAL		184			TOTAL		113

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Great way to look at it - gets rid of the spurious arguments as to which years to put Porro and Kulusevski fees in.

And on those numbers we've spent a net £160m over 2 seasons or £80m a season

I think you might have 'under costed' a couple of players so if anything that net of £160m is slightly understated - my suggestion would be .

Brennan Johnson -£47.5m
Micky van de Ven - £34.5m + £8.5m add on's

 

[skywalker68]

OK...so we only spent 62m then ....not sure how you came to that figure of 162m, maddison 40m, vdv 42m, vicario 16m, Johnson 45m, soloman free..I make that roughly 143m...so that's about 60m after the kane money. So in premier league money terms, we spent fuck all after the kane money. So basically had no transfer budget to speak off if kane hadn't left ?
A big premier league club should be able to spend that easily, and then spend the kane money on top. But not this club, our owners plead poverty.

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The past couple of years, even west ham have been outspending us.
And yet , we turn over far more money than they do, so what are they doing right that we can't do.

 

[Pól]

OK...so we only spent 62m then ....not sure how you came to that figure of 162m, maddison 40m, vdv 42m, vicario 16m, Johnson 45m, soloman free..I make that roughly 143m...so that's about 60m after the kane money. So in premier league money terms, we spent fuck all after the kane money. So basically had no transfer budget to speak off if kane hadn't left ?
A big premier league club should be able to spend that easily, and then spend the kane money on top. But not this club, our owners plead poverty.

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Johnson was 48 million and you are forgetting veliz who was 13 million.

Do keep up

 

[Spursidol]

Yes...you think wasting 50m on johnson was more needed than signing a 50m cb then ??

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Clearly Ange was happier buying Johnson than any of the CB's available for that £50m.

And I'd trust his opinion more than any poster. Equally Levy has a reputation for being tight, so he's clearly not going to want to spend £50m except to back his manager.

 

[Richard Arlison]

We couldn’t shift the defenders out or at least for the minimum price Levy wanted and we couldn’t get what we may have wanted….I know we all have given up on Sanchez but there is a defender in there somewhere that we paid 42m for…if anyone can bring that defender back to life and restore confidence it’s fucking Ange and look who he and all the players have had to work with since Poch…Nuno, Mourinho and Conte…the last two would absolutely destroy anybody’s belief…

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It’s not about Ange or being positive about what he can do with the team.

As soon as the ball kicks off today I’m positive about the team.

It’s about the mentality of our board and Levy.

 

[Spursidol]

Before this window every pundit in town was saying it was impossible to replace Kane and his 30 goals a season.

And its a very tall order to replace perhaps the best striker in the world.

But we have added Maddison and Johnson - both of whom scored 10 goals each last season in PL

Maddison is a very creative player , and together with Udogie inn his debut season is also adding a lot more creativity.

Stats would suggest that we are creating about 30% more chances than in previous seasons so its perfectly reasonable to expect other players to add say another 10 goals or so between them. And that's a combination of Ange bringing his attacking style plus more creative players in.

So pundits answered in spades !

 

[Go on son]

Yeah him too. I mean we have spent way over the 100 million we got for Kane. That’s close to 150 million. What the hell are they crying about ?

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Problem is why wasnt the kane money added into the money put aside already for transfers.

 

[vibes_guy]

Before this window every pundit in town was saying it was impossible to replace Kane and his 30 goals a season.

And its a very tall order to replace perhaps the best striker in the world.

But we have added Maddison and Johnson - both of whom scored 10 goals each last season in PL

Maddison is a very creative player , and together with Udogie inn his debut season is also adding a lot more creativity.

Stats would suggest that we are creating about 30% more chances than in previous seasons so its perfectly reasonable to expect other players to add say another 10 goals or so between them. And that's a combination of Ange bringing his attacking style plus more creative players in.

So pundits answered in spades !

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Most pundits are just stealing a living to be honest.

 

[Spursidol]

Another point which has passed too many posters by is that in this window we have helped to solve the problem of lack of quality HG players, despite the loss of Harry. Too many posters simply ignore the issue despite the fact that with too few HG players we cannot field a full squad - and worst case we have only seventeen players in the squad

Our HG position is now :

Club trained
Skipp, Austin (3rd GK)

Players trained at Clubs affiliated to The FA or FAW
Maddison, Johnson, Forster, Davies

So bringing in Maddison and Johnson not only add goals and assists but crucially fill part of our HG spots this season. So a great move to bring them both in.

We need to hope that Ange puts an effort into developing youth more than any manager since 1999 - that's pretty much the only way to get more Club Trained players.

 

[BrightonSpurs]

They’ve both had good careers here, so I don’t want to be overly disrespectful, but Lloris and Dier really shouldn’t be let back into the training ground.

We’re trying to build a new culture with a new leadership group, having two formerly influential players moping around on the fringes because they can’t arrange a move away will just be massively detrimental to camaraderie and togetherness in the new era.

And of course none of our players should even be forced to look at Ndombele for fear of the negative influence his mere aura might cast on others.

Buy them out or have them train separately.

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No point paying anyone off until Turkish and Saudi windows close

 

[Spursidol]

Problem is why wasnt the kane money added into the money put aside already for transfers.

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If you look at the basic arithmetic we have a net spend of some £160m over 2 years - so that includes the Kane money.

Gross over 2 years (to avoid all the arguments as to how to allocate Porro and Kulusevski fees) gross spend is about £350m (ie £175m pa) - and that is only affordable with the £100m from Kane.

All in sudoku 's excellent post and listing on the previous page.

 

[skywalker68]

It’s not about Ange or being positive about what he can do with the team.

As soon as the ball kicks off today I’m positive about the team.

It’s about the mentality of our board and Levy.

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The boards mentality is, just to remain in the league and that is good enough.
But for, a club of our size, this simply isn't good enough.

 

[sudoku]

Dion Dublin says Johnson is the buy of the window and Spurs are perfect for the kid.