Surely there’s a compromise between spending 100m on Ndombele/ Lo Celso and signing Werner on loan and two teenagers in our weakest position?
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Ofc we can't do much about it. But... I mean... it is a forum here. So we can still discuss, I hope?
Regarding Ange being happy or not - I have heard quite many times this summer comments about him "being anxious due to not having control" and "process taking longer" and "not getting everything needed done so early". Not saying that he'd be about to walk out or drown the toys, but I do believe that it is not like Ange would be on cloud nine with our current summer spending.
Where did you see/hear that mate?
it’s not nonsense though is it, we have numerous examples where we have rotated heavily in a cup game to save ourselves for a league game - just last season away at Fulham we did that.
Before then Sheff United, Colchester, Middlesbrough, Burnley.
You can go back to the Harry Redknapp days - Shakhtar, PAOK.
it’s in the DNA of this club the last 15 years to devalue the cup comps and not really try.
The Europa league is the most winnable competition we are in this season - no Woolwich, Man City, Liverpool etc. We’re one of the 5 favourites to win it. If we dock about with selection in a knockout game with that comp then they deserve all the peters they get about us not winning trophies - the minimum requirement should be we try our hardest to win
The squad isn't good enough to make that many changes.
Also, I don't think that making that many changes is good even if the squad depth can do it. So that's not good enough from most of the managers we've had for doing it.
Disagree on Yoro. Probably the highest-rated young defender in the world. Madrid had lined him up.Yoro - 18 yo CB. So defensive equivalent to Gray/Bergvall. Not more of "immidiate impact" player than mentioned 2.
Ugarte - not even signed yet + we'll see about him... if they get him done he'll be better than Arambarat most likely indeed
Zirkee- fair enough - improvement in XI compared to what they had, but... I think he is very average player. Bayern pretty much never lets top youth players leave...
de Ligt - mediocre defender that loses value as years go by, brought on the back of nostalgia and former hype
Mazroui- shit fullback that Bayern only signed for making some profit, hundreds of his level players around...
Soo.... well... yea... I can agree that they have tried. But I feel that they have tried it in ManU way. Which over past decade could be considered serious insult
United coughed up 50m + and he's definitely starting alongside Martinez.
We’ve not been good enough in some cases due to the shiete side we have put out - I fully believe we would have one more cup in the trophy room if we had taken cup comps seriously the last 15 years
Massive risk to throw in an 18 year old straight away, particularly a defender.
He’s injured for 2 months anyway.
I’d argue that our depth is much much better and we won’t see the drop off that we did last season.
Sir Alex Ferguson before his trophy laiden reign was ALMOST sacked by Utd....
He finished 11th, 2nd, 11th and in the 4th season were still not looking great.
They even got battered 5-1 by City. It was expected he would have been sacked (in his 4th season) when they drew Forest in the FA cup... Somehow they spawned a 1-0 to knock Forest out and went on the win the FA cup. The rest is history as they say.
Trigger happy cunts these days can't allow time for anything to blossom because they expect a fucking orchard to instantly appear after planting the seeds.
Solanke said he was looking forward to playing in Europe andas long as he is scoring in the PL he must play and not like Kane left on the bench frequently.
Spending money is one thing, how you spend it is another.Summer 2013 we had a net spend of around £3.5m
Last Summer we had a net spend of around £60m and I haven't even included the Porro and Kulusevski fees seeing as that upsets some people
There's a difference between the two, no?
Every single PL clubs net spend has changed in the last number of years. There’s far more money in the league in general and transfer fees have inflated as a result.
The issue I am highlighting is we are still targeting the same quality of player and operating in the same way in the market as we always have under ENIC.
That was nineteen eighty fucking seven.
The world has moved on.
He was also absolutely proven already. The guy won the league with Aberdeen, not fucking celtic or rangers.
Seriously - 1987 and people are still using that as the basis that you should just unequivocally give managers time.
West Ham and Newcastle did that and they went down for it.
Yoro, isn't he a 18 years old defender from the French League. In what way is he upgrading the first eleven? I might agree rite others are, but we'll see.
How is that post helpful?
Yes it always gets trotted out. He finished 2nd in his first full season playing great stuff and this was a Utd side that achieved that position 1 other time in the previous 19 years. He earnt that time by doing something they werent used to seeing.
Someone said "as long as fans don't get toxic"
Don't blame me if fans show up and boo. I'm not a boo-er, but it happens. It's getting towards toxic again.
not to mention there was hardly any money in football back then, the repercussions for getting relegated were negligible. There was no champions league qualification being the difference between riches and going broke.
The stakes are just so much higher for the bigger clubs in the PL these days that sticking with a manager because in 1987 Man United did it could be a massive massive problem that a club like us can't recover from.
Add in the fact most managers want the sack. Very few that get it are still desperately trying to turn the tide and believe they can.