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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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I've never taken to Raheem Sterling, either as a player (apart from in the early days maybe) or as a person (although I'll freely admit that that's largely an opinion gathered through the filter of tabloid tittle tattle).

I couldn't be less bothered we didn't sign him. Arsen@l seems like the perfect fit for him.
 
There's a reason for that though, clubs have PSR concerns therefore taking less risks and thus there's less money going around in the market which was my point all along, I didn't expect Saudi to cut back on spending either tbf.

Seems like on the whole clubs with money now are just being more sensible, even non Prem teams like PSG/Bayern/Real aren't spending recklessly anymore...2/3 years ago those players you mentioned would have been snapped up by someone.

Funny that 2nd window in a row we've had the most expensive purchase of the window.
Second window? You sure about that?
 
The main problem with the Sancho/Sterling discourse is that we went and filled up that potential spot in the team with Timo Werner and I don't think we ever considered another option. Ange saw him last season and thought 'ye this'll do for another season' and that was that, If we had sent him packing and waited maybe we could have had a shot at one of the two but I don't think we wanted to risk being left with no one.
23/24 Sterling (League Only) 12 G/A IN 1992 mins = goal contribution every 166 mins

23/24 Werner (League Only) 5 G/A in 815 mins = goal contribution every 163 mins

Sancho doesn’t even come into the equation - he’s another one where the idea of him is way better than what he actually is.

If people are complaining about this situation, then they would also have to admit that Levy’s long-standing method of waiting to the last minute for an opportunistic trolley dash has its benefits, but they’d never do that.

“Get the players in early so they can be settled under the manager in preseason” 🙄
 
Where can we read the terms of the option on Cardoso?

Seems to be fairly big discrepancies between how it’s been reported and nothing official is out yet?

From the consensus of what’s been reported, we have a year to either buy him for €30m (which looks an unbelievable price) or we get a -% of the sale if we don’t buy him.

But based on the type of player he is, the need we have in the squad, and the fact that Biss and Bentancur both have a year left next summer, it looks like barring unforeseen circumstances we have got our man and a player who’s statistically and physically the perfect fit to refresh the senior CM spots.

How’s that demonic?

I'll entertain the notion that you knew who the fuck this guy was prior to waking up yesterday - maybe you did maybe you didn't lol.

In your words, it's an unbelievable price for a player that we currently need in the squad who according to you is statistically perfect , so perfect the club won't commit to buying him. Apparently he is also capable of replacing Bentancur or Bissouma who sorta, kinda, maybe might be leaving next summer (it would be a club choice, not a contract situation, to let Bissouma go because currently he is not displaying the consistent quality nor the temperament to stay at the club)

My guy, which is it?? You're playing both sides, which are in blatent contradiction with each other, to make this sound like visionary business in the footballing interests of this club and not financial. Do we need the fucking football player or not? Maybe I'm crazy but when a team has current need in the squad they use the transfer window to bring the player in not negotiate a future option to make money on him regardless of whether he joins or not.

Also, this move is a blatent contridiction to recent reports that were plastered all over this forum that Ange is so impressed with Gray and Bervall that he regards them as first squad players - there was no suggestion of them ever being loaned and they're currently getting minutes. They both are analogues of Bentancur and Bissouma by nature of their positions on the pitch so why would a 22 year old Cardosa walk in ahead of them as a "senior CM"? Wtf. Didn't Ange also just litterally talk about the importance of younger players having a route to squad, if Bergvall and Grey didn't have an immediate route they would have been loaned - if Ange is to be taken seriously and at his word then there is absolutely no need for Cardosa whatsoever; both Bergvall and Gray have played in Bentancur and Bissouma's positions twice this season already.

But no guys, Cardosa must be one of those betty big bollocks Ange decisions. I'm sure it was ultimately his choice to get an option on a player which flies in the face of his statements & squad selection, who the club would stand to profit from regardless of whether he steps foot in our stadium. Yes, this is all about pushing the starting 11 onto bigger and better things...

And yes, Levy is demonic. This year he is comodifying footballers as futures options inspite of squad needs, last year he was talking advantage of the Ukraine war to get contracted players on a free. He is a fucking parasite to this club and a fucking parasite to footballing integrity.
 
I shall be monitoring the Betis games with great interest from now on. We all look good on YouTube but he looks even better. An absolute powerhouse.
Strange that 99% of us had never heard of him even though he was nominated for young player of the year in La Liga.
Thought He was American but happier now that I know he is Brazilian. Just born in the USA….but he’s not called Bruce.
Mate I watch La Liga and I’d never heard of him. Admittedly never watched a single Betis game last year though.

Just goes to show that us at home doing our armchair scouting haven’t got a fucking clue. I’m with you though, I’ll be watching now.
 
Here are the player I saw had been linked to Spurs by different media outlets for this 2024 summer TW.
And, before anyone think I believe Spurs were after all these players: no, I don't! I just posting this to show how the media love to link various clubs to player for the sake of click baits (but some - or rather a few - of the links are, of course, genuine)

Summer TW 2004 links:


GK
: Douglas Lukjanciks, Joan García, Tommaso Martinelli,

LB: Samuel Illing-Junior, Thierry Small, Miguel Gutiérrez, Andrea Cambiaso, Patrick Dorgu, Bradley Locko, Marcus Vinnicius,
LC: Jarrad Braintwatie, Lloyd Kelly, Jacob Greaves, Max Kilman, Ricardo Calafiori, Alessandro Buongiorno, Gonçalo Ramos, Mario Hermoso, Oscar Boscagli, Bastien Meupiyou, Soumaïla Coulibaly, Felipe Morato, Murillo Costa, Piero Hincapié, William Pacho, Kōki Machida, Hiroki Ito,
RC: Joe Gomez, Tosin Adarabiyo, Trevoh Chalobah, Marc Guehi, Rico Browne, Harley, Hunt, Alvin Ayman, Andreas Christensen, Dean Huijsen, Rav van den Berg, Mats Hummel, Federico Gatti, Giovanni Leoni, Koni de Winter, Mohamed Simikan, Loïc Badé, Jean-Clair Todibo, Ilya Zabarnyi, Nikola Milenkovic, Gleison Bremer, Edmund Tapsoba, , Gabriel Osho,
RB: Kyle Walker-Peters, Ben Johnson, Harley Emsden-James, Festy Ebosele, Denzel Dumfries, Lutsharel Geertruida, Tiago Santos, Raoul Bellanova, Michael Koyde, Ferdi Kadıoğlu, João Pedro Chermont, Wesley França, Yan Couto, Vanderson de Oliveira, Guéla Doué

DM: Archie Gray, Hayden Hackney, William Garner, Scott McTominay, Morten Hjulmand, Mats Wieffer, Wouter Burger, Joshua Kimmich, Boris Lum, Angelo Stiller, Manuel Locatelli, Martin Zubimendi, Adrien Rabiot, Youssouf Fofana, Guido Rodriguez, Johnny Cardoso, Amadou Onana, Petar Sučić, Boris Mamuzah Lum, Amadou Haidara,
CM: Conor Gallagher, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Chris Rigg, Josh Brownhill, Ryan Doherty (Stvenage), Chinaza Nwosu, Daniel Kelly (Celtic), Jordan James, Matt O’Riley, Menzi Mazwi, Jens Hjertø-Dahl, Hugo Larsson, Tristan Aldcroft Panduro (FK København), Frenkie de Jong, Quinten Timber, Teun Koopmeiers, Carlos Soler, Davide Frattesi, Andy Diouf, Khéphren Thuram İsmail Yüksek, João Gomes, Ederson Silva, Andreas Pereira, Exequiel Palacios, Ezequiel Fernandez, Carlos Alcara, Federico Redondo, Kuryu Matsuki, Amir Richardson, Weston McKennie,
OM: Eberechi Eze, Morgan Gibbs-White, Jacob Ramsey, Angel Gomes, Daniel Rigge, Kyran Thompson, Dani Olmo, Álex Baena, Sebastian Szymański, Giorgi Sudakov, Rayan Cherki, Bilal El Khannouss,

LF: Callum Huddon-Odoi, Jack Grealish, Jaden Philogene, Jonathan Rowe, Antonio Nusa, Viktor Djukanović, Chris Führich, Serge Gnabry, Rafael Leão, Kingsley Coman, Wilson Odobert, Crysencio Summerville, Federico Chiesa, Filipe “Jota”, Ferran Torres, Nico Williams, Barış Alper Yılmaz, Wesley Gassova, Ibrahim Osman, Mohamed Amoura, Simon Adingra, Kaoru Mitoma, Min-hyuk Yang,
CF: George Feeney, Harry Kane, Ivan Toney, Marcus Rashford, Dominic Solanke, Tammy Abraham, Evan Ferguson, Albert Guðmundsson, Alexander Isak , Brian Brobbery, Benjamin Šeško, Maximillian Beier, Joshua Zirkzee, Francesco Camarda, Anthony Martial, Luis Openda, Semih Kılıçsoy, Santiago Giménez, Julián Álvarez, Francisco Evanilson, Vitor Roque, Rodrigo Muniz, Omar Marmoush, Kévin Denkey, Franculino Gluda Djú, Victor Osimhen, Brahim Diaz, Youssef En-Nesyri, Thomas Waddingham, Yuito Suzuki,
RF: Marcus Edwards, Jarrod Bowen, Omari Kellyman , Roony Bardghji, Francisco Conceição, Pedro Neto, Dani Rodríguez, Johan Bakayoko, Eden Zhegrova, Marin Šotiček, Matias Soulé, Dario Osorio, Raphinha, Takefusa Kubo, Timeo Whisker

Surely the last one is just a made up name! 😂
 
Also, this move is a blatent contridiction to recent reports that were plastered all over this forum that Ange is so impressed with Gray and Bervall that he regards them as first squad players - there was no suggestion of them ever being loaned and they're currently getting minutes. They both are analogues of Bentancur and Bissouma by nature of their positions on the pitch so why would a 22 year old Cardosa walk in ahead of them as a "senior CM"? Wtf. Didn't Ange also just litterally talk about the importance of younger players having a route to squad, if Bergvall and Grey didn't have an immediate route they would have been loaned - if Ange is to be taken seriously and at his word then there is absolutely no need for Cardosa whatsoever; both Bergvall and Gray have played in Bentancur and Bissouma's positions twice this season already.
No, it isn't. If Cardoso comes in it will be in place of one of Bissouma or Bentancur.
 
I'll entertain the notion that you knew who the fuck this guy was prior to waking up yesterday - maybe you did maybe you didn't lol.

In your words, it's an unbelievable price for a player that we currently need in the squad who according to you is statistically perfect , so perfect the club won't commit to buying him. Apparently he is also capable of replacing Bentancur or Bissouma who sorta, kinda, maybe might be leaving next summer (it would be a club choice, not a contract situation, to let Bissouma go because currently he is not displaying the consistent quality nor the temperament to stay at the club)

My guy, which is it?? You're playing both sides, which are in blatent contradiction with each other, to make this sound like visionary business in the footballing interests of this club and not financial. Do we need the fucking football player or not? Maybe I'm crazy but when a team has current need in the squad they use the transfer window to bring the player in not negotiate a future option to make money on him regardless of whether he joins or not.

Also, this move is a blatent contridiction to recent reports that were plastered all over this forum that Ange is so impressed with Gray and Bervall that he regards them as first squad players - there was no suggestion of them ever being loaned and they're currently getting minutes. They both are analogues of Bentancur and Bissouma by nature of their positions on the pitch so why would a 22 year old Cardosa walk in ahead of them as a "senior CM"? Wtf. Didn't Ange also just litterally talk about the importance of younger players having a route to squad, if Bergvall and Grey didn't have an immediate route they would have been loaned - if Ange is to be taken seriously and at his word then there is absolutely no need for Cardosa whatsoever; both Bergvall and Gray have played in Bentancur and Bissouma's positions twice this season already.

But no guys, Cardosa must be one of those betty big bollocks Ange decisions. I'm sure it was ultimately his choice to get an option on a player which flies in the face of his statements & squad selection, who the club would stand to profit from regardless of whether he steps foot in our stadium. Yes, this is all about pushing the starting 11 onto bigger and better things...

And yes, Levy is demonic. This year he is comodifying footballers as futures options inspite of squad needs, last year he was talking advantage of the Ukraine war to get contracted players on a free. He is a fucking parasite to this club and a fucking parasite to footballing integrity.
I’ll be honest that was too long for me so I’ll answer as far as I got.

I had no idea who he was so I can only say statistically perfect because that’s all I’ve got to go on until I watch him. The stats he produced and the analysis I’ve read of him as a player perfectly fits the type of CM we have been linked with needing and also the type that we’d look to replace Biss or Benta with if we didn’t extend their contracts.

€30m for a first 11 quality footballer from the Prem or La Liga is a great price.

What’s demonic about that?
 
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The main problem with the Sancho/Sterling discourse is that we went and filled up that potential spot in the team with Timo Werner and I don't think we ever considered another option. Ange saw him last season and thought 'ye this'll do for another season' and that was that, If we had sent him packing and waited maybe we could have had a shot at one of the two but I don't think we wanted to risk being left with no one.
All three are shite but Sterling and Sancho are out of our wage structure
 
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