Cool, you'll change your mind again in a couple of weeks though.
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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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Cool, you'll change your mind again in a couple of weeks though.
Nah
I never even thought it would be possible for us to chase a player of this level but then a link came up.
We won't sign him though, his next move will be to a big club.
I thought so
Hmm not sure about this. Gimenez I'm really unconvinced by, and for me our biggest problem in midfield is a #6. Neither Eze nor Gallagher fix that.
And as for Eze, I do think he's a good player but every Palace fan will tell you he's best centrally. £60m is a fuck ton to pay for a guy who'd be behind Maddison in the #10 and most probably behind Son out wide.
I'd also feel a bit sick about spending £45 on Gallagher when I'm not sure he makes the starting XI ahead of a fully recovered Bentancur or a Sarr with another year of development.
These are some of the more realistic sums I've seen. £40-50m for Richy I don't think is unreasonable and would go a long way to getting a replacement. Hojbjerg we might struggle to get £20m for considering he's out of contract in 2025. £12m for Gil I have to say is fantasy land.
Can't see Gray going for as little as 25m with the amount of interest in him. Still young enough to be club-trained for whoever signs him if he moves this summer.
I did not know that about his contract. Could be more like 15m. I think he’ll be worth that and be a good deal for someone.
Gil is difficult. 10m back to Spain seems realistic to me.
For me this still leaves us pretty unbalanced.
Gray has promise (and no way we'd get him for £25m) but he's probably not ready to come in and be our starting #6. It's such a crucial position for us to upgrade, and without one I don't see Ange lasting long unless Bentancur comes back next season looking like his 30 minute cameo against Villa. Bissouma ain't it and I'd sell personally.
Eze and Gibbs White are good players but I'm not sure what burning problem they solve. Neither of them are natural left wingers and neither of them get in the starting XI ahead of Maddison. Eze will also cost closer to £70m than £50m.
Gallagher too is a good player but again I'm not sure what problem he solves, beyond fixing our HG issue which I fear is driving too many of our targets.
Hudson-Odoi and Summerville are both LWs, when the position we really need an upgrade is on the right. Just feels like a waste spending all that money and still having to start Kulu or Brennan.
I'll have what you're having, particularly in regards to the Gil and Solomon fees. The Ndombele one is accurate though.
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One more year unfortunately.
Gyokeres, imo.
I look forward to being fucking miserable come the end of August then...
What’s his fee likely to be?
Wharton was an initial 18m and had a bigger CV possibly.
Championship players don’t go for huge fees. If Leeds go up, the fee does too.
Gray would get minutes rotation at RB and some CM. I think mostly RB to start with.
Gallagher gives you pressing and ball winning. I just don’t see an elite level #6 Out there this summer.
We need competition for Maddison not a back up. He gets injured from all the hacks he takes. Eze or MGW can both compete to start with him imo. We had zero creativity since Maddison’s first injury and he’s only just getting back in form again now. Can’t be in that position again.
CHO can play either side. Summerville is pretty much LW only you are right
Yes I remember him yapping on about our massive warchest in summer 2018. Of course we then became the first club in history to spend nothing in one window. I called him out and of course got kicked off the forum for it.
Much higher I reckon. Blackburn wanted more for Wharton but only Palace bid and they needed the money. There's loads of interest in Gray, even Bayern and Real Madrid have sent scouts to watch him. Might depend on whether they go up but I reckon £40-50m plus addons. Prob worth it though
Gray is three years younger than Wharton though and is super hyped. Wharton's name was in the media but still fairly unknown.
I think Leeds would ask for £40m for Gray, and of course if they come up he's going nowhere.
Agree on Gallagher, but we already get that from Sarr, and peak Bentancur is basically a perfect #8 this system. We could buy Gallagher only for him to be redundant next year.
Elite #6's are like gold dust but they're also arguably the most important position in football, I don't think we can afford to go a season without solving that problem. Even if it's with a sub-optimal solution like an Onana or Uguarte. Every #6 bar Rodri has some trade-offs in terms of what they're strong/weak at.
Fair point. I do feel we should have made much more use of Gio while Maddison has been getting back to full fitness but having two injury-prone #10s isn't ideal. And maybe if we do bring Eze we should look to offload Kulu cos by then he really would be a bit redundant.
GLC was never fit consistently when Maddison was out. Story of his career.
I don’t think we sign Ugarte tbh and Onana isn’t even close to an upgrade on Bissouma. Biss needs competition to force him to be consistent
40m would be a record for a championship club?
Agree to disagree on Onana. Defensively he's an animal, levels above Bissouma in that regard. On the ball he's unspectacular but safe, and underrated. He doesn't have Bissouma's ball carrying ability (not that we've seen much of that since October) but he certainly loses it far less.
Onana vs England
As for Bissouma's consistency, this is just who he is, Brighton fans will confirm. He's either the best DM in the world or a disinterested liability. Sadly for us that ratio has been roughly 1:10 in his time here, can't be relying on someone like that in such a crucial position. Give me 7/10 Onana performances over that any day of the week.
Maybe fair.
I remember him having a great season for Brighton before joining
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Onana. He's very good at winning aerial duels which has been one of our biggest issues this season with defending set pieces. That gets improved instantly if he signs. Bissouma doesn't win headers.
He's a good tackler as well. He's good at winning the ball back high up the pitch the moment it gets lost. That prevents a lot of transitions from occurring which has been another issue for us this season and can keep the play alive instead of constantly breaking down leading to counters. He has good positional sense as well to cover spaces during those transitional phases and just out of possession generally.
He can retain possession as well due to his physicality allowing him to shield the ball and hold onto it for longer. We've had issues just keeping the ball this season which leads to us turning it over more often.