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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Because he's under performing since coming back from his injury, so I don't see the point in playing him again until next season.

This doesn't make sense.

If he hasn't 100% fully recovered from his injury he needs games to regain match fitness and sharpness, that's the point of playing him so he's ready to go for next season.

It's like you're saying that every player who plays football should be playing at 100% otherwise there's no point in them playing.
 
Because he's under performing since coming back from his injury, so I don't see the point in playing him again until next season.
Players need time on the pitch to regain their form after coming back from a long injury. What don't you get.

And you're making it out like Bentancur has been dropping stinker after stinker every minute he's played. He's not, he's just not hit his previous levels.
 
That makes me wonder why we've been using him at all this season then, since his injuries. Why not just be patient as you said? There's nothing to gain in playing him until next season.
He'll never get back to match fitness/sharpness if he isn't played.

The guy fought long and hard to come back early from his ACL. What sort of message would we be sending him if, after all that, we just said nah, take the rest of the season off mate?
 
This doesn't make sense.

If he hasn't 100% fully recovered from his injury he needs games to regain match fitness and sharpness, that's the point of playing him so he's ready to go for next season.

It's like you're saying that every player who plays football should be playing at 100% otherwise there's no point in them playing.
What I'm saying is that if a player is underperforming since coming back from an injury, and keeps getting subbed on/off, with only a handful of games left to play, be as well drop him until the following season.

Then he's got pre season to get back to being sharp again for next season.
 
He'll never get back to match fitness/sharpness if he isn't played.

The guy fought long and hard to come back early from his ACL. What sort of message would we be sending him if, after all that, we just said nah, take the rest of the season off mate?
Yes and he can use the pre-season matches to get sharp again for next season, it's not like we're short on MFs. Surely for the sake of the team not the one player.
 
What I'm saying is that if a player is underperforming since coming back from an injury, and keeps getting subbed on/off, with only a handful of games left to play, be as well drop him until the following season.

Then he's got pre season to get back to being sharp again for next season.
Pre season is to get fitness levels back after the Summer lay off, but only competitive matches will sharpen you to peak.

By your measure, we should have benched our entire midfield, until next season, because they've all underperformed since coming back from their various injuries.

As it is, they look like they're regaining some of that form, if the City game is anything to go by.
 
What I'm saying is that if a player is underperforming since coming back from an injury, and keeps getting subbed on/off, with only a handful of games left to play, be as well drop him until the following season.

Then he's got pre season to get back to being sharp again for next season.

Pre season isn't played at the same level or pace as a competitive match.

The fact that we're playing him now tells us how close/far away he is, why wait until next season to answer that question.

What's more keeping him away from the pitch for another 4-5 months when he's been out for 8 months and then expecting him to get back on the pitch after a 13 month lay off to play in preseason for what 4/5 matches, what exactly is that going to determine?

Your logic is a bit ass backwards
 
Because he's under performing since coming back from his injury, so I don't see the point in playing him again until next season.
Both Bentancur and Maddison have looked much better in the last two games in my view. But yes, we arguably should have been giving them substitute minutes to begin with. Part of the problem there was the rest of our midfield was either underperforming (Skipp, Bissouma, Sarr) or not being used (Gio).
 
Seriously, binning a player's season as he's been mediocre since returning from injury and doesn't have the match fitness or sharpness yet is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. And it's not even like we have other world class players on the bench.
 
Both Bentancur and Maddison have looked much better in the last two games in my view. But yes, we arguably should have been giving them substitute minutes to begin with. Part of the problem there was the rest of our midfield was either underperforming (Skipp, Bissouma, Sarr) or not being used (Gio).
Well let's see if he plays today, personally I don't see the point in it but he'll probably prove me wrong if he does play.
 
Well if you think an underperforming Bentancur is better than who we play in his place (when he was injured) now that he's back and off form, then fair enough.
It doesn't really matter who we played when he was injured given that since his return, those players have been playing at a similar level to him. Sarr, Biss and Skipp have neither been much better nor worse than him overall this second half of the season.
 
Pre season isn't played at the same level or pace as a competitive match.

The fact that we're playing him now tells us how close/far away he is, why wait until next season to answer that question.

What's more keeping him away from the pitch for another 4-5 months when he's been out for 8 months and then expecting him to get back on the pitch after a 13 month lay off to play in preseason for what 4/5 matches, what exactly is that going to determine?

Your logic is a bit ass backwards
All I'm saying is after that tackle by Matty Cash his season has been over. He's a shadow of the player that he was. So we're playing him this season to help him to recover for next season. Fair enough but that doesn't help the team this season.
 
All I'm saying is after that tackle by Matty Cash his season has been over. He's a shadow of the player that he was. So we're playing him this season to help him to recover for next season. Fair enough but that doesn't help the team this season.

Well you play the long game anyway, if playing him doesn't help the team this season (I'd argue it does because of the alternatives who would play if he wasn't playing) then if he gets back to the level pre injury then it helps the team next season and beyond.
 
It doesn't really matter who we played when he was injured given that since his return, those players have been playing at a similar level to him. Sarr, Biss and Skipp have neither been much better nor worse than him overall this second half of the season.
The second half of the season has been mainly shit but just focusing on Bentancur, I just hope his career hasn't dropped overall. It might just be me not paying enough attention but he was very good at beating the press and also making driving runs. That's what I liked best about him, he doesn't seem to be doing it.

Hopefully next season he'll be back to his pre-injury form.
 
The second half of the season has been mainly shit but just focusing on Bentancur, I just hope his career hasn't dropped overall. It might just be me not paying enough attention but he was very good at beating the press and also making driving runs. That's what I liked best about him, he doesn't seem to be doing it.

Hopefully next season he'll be back to his pre-injury form.
Yep. Would love to have peak Bentancur back playing as one of the 8's with early season Bissouma and Madders. Would relieve some of the creative responsibilities on Madders too since Sarr isn't really that creative.
 
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