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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Wait, are we seriously after Neto???

That would be an absolute madness for high fee. I went back to check and he has been at Wolves for 5 full seasons now. He has had major injury in 4 out of 5 seasons and as a result he has racked up 7600 minutes across all competitions. That is equivalent of 17 full games per season (!). Hamstring, knee, ankle - you name it.

He is massively damaged good. Quick Google'ing showed that quoted fee could be close to 60 mil £ ?!? This is way off. We should be aiming for 50+ games per season. Which means based on his past Neto would be available for 1/3 of games. With our medical staff track record even maybe less.

Paying 60 mil for player being available for 1/3 of the time indicates that he'd be 180 mil player otherwise :D :D :D . I mean come on.

25 mil EUR is absolute max that kind of player would be worth. More realistically 20.
With transfer we should offer him a long contract with significant salaries. So it could very well be that we take an obligation to pay him 120 kpw for 5 years - that is 31 mEUR obligation, and lad could pull his hammy again and this time so bad that his career on EPL level is up.

I'd rather go with Donley, Moore and Lankashear than take such an extreme gamble.
 
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise there was some laughable arbitrary time barometer for what we accept as gospel but okay then if you're struggling with dates and what seemingly appeals to you in your head he literally said this in May which was....2 months ago:

In the context of whether we can challenge the top two:




Does this sound like a manager who really thinks we can challenge the league, really? Really? I don't know about you it sounds to me that he's sitting on the fence here and he's using a load of caveats which is manager speak for not overloading on expectations, it's very normal



Okay the next thing we need to learn is how to not take things out of context, he was asked this:



That was his answer, again - nothing about challenging for the league so I'm not sure what we're doing here...?

There's obvious caveat's and he's using careful language, maybe it's a bit to subtle for you and you struggle to read past basic headlines, I don't know?



So this is the window he thinks he'll be happy with the squad having said that he did say this the other day so:


:harrysmile:



If you think the manager isn't good enough, you think he should be sacked and you've more than made your point at the back end of last season on plenty of occasions then that means you don't trust him so therefore how can you continually actually take his word as gospel when he says we can challenge for the league?

You either trust him or you don't, let's pick an argument and preferably one that doesn't suit your agenda so we can move on.

You're much smarter than you're letting on, someone like you shouldn't be getting confused between mentality and strategy, it's a very basic concept.

And your final paragraph is a load of nonsense so I'm not gonna bother replying to it sorry.
I am going to make some predictions for next season:

Ange will be gone before Christmas.
We will finish 8/9th in the league
We will not spend more than £50m for the rest of the window.
Los Celso and Reguilon will be forced to go out on loan when we cannot sell and go for free next summer.
 
We had brilliant start last season, were top or second or there about after 10/11 games. We were mediocre for the last 27 games or so.

Where will we end up if the form of last 27 games carry on for 38 PL games this season?

The question becomes reality if we don't sign couple of decent forward players. Son, Kulu, Richy, Werner or Johnson didn't do well last season.
 
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I am going to make some predictions for next season:

Ange will be gone before Christmas.
We will finish 8/9th in the league
We will not spend more than £50m for the rest of the window.
Los Celso and Reguilon will be forced to go out on loan when we cannot sell and go for free next summer.
Ange is not Conte or Jose, he will stay. Levy found the right Mr yes person for his club.
The rest are agreeable.
 
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise there was some laughable arbitrary time barometer for what we accept as gospel but okay then if you're struggling with dates and what seemingly appeals to you in your head he literally said this in May which was....2 months ago:

In the context of whether we can challenge the top two:




Does this sound like a manager who really thinks we can challenge the league, really? Really? I don't know about you it sounds to me that he's sitting on the fence here and he's using a load of caveats which is manager speak for not overloading on expectations, it's very normal



Okay the next thing we need to learn is how to not take things out of context, he was asked this:



That was his answer, again - nothing about challenging for the league so I'm not sure what we're doing here...?

There's obvious caveat's and he's using careful language, maybe it's a bit to subtle for you and you struggle to read past basic headlines, I don't know?



So this is the window he thinks he'll be happy with the squad having said that he did say this the other day so:


:harrysmile:



If you think the manager isn't good enough, you think he should be sacked and you've more than made your point at the back end of last season on plenty of occasions then that means you don't trust him so therefore how can you continually actually take his word as gospel when he says we can challenge for the league?

You either trust him or you don't, let's pick an argument and preferably one that doesn't suit your agenda so we can move on.

You're much smarter than you're letting on, someone like you shouldn't be getting confused between mentality and strategy, it's a very basic concept.

And your final paragraph is a load of nonsense so I'm not gonna bother replying to it sorry.
If you trust him, what does him saying in April he expects to be challenging for the title this season and then a month later him sitting on the fence and using loads of caveats mean for our season, do you give a shit or is there more mental gymnastics to be done to explain away the lowering of expectations and who is to blame for it?
 
Still think we'll get Eze over Neto.

Risk reward is too high with Neto tbh and with all the talk of Moore being promoted to first team, I think Johnson and him will be our right wing depth and Moore will probably overtake by Christmas.
 
Man United and Liverpool grew by using their considerable financial resources to strengthen themselves whilst simultaneously weaken their rivals. United especially deployed this tactic. Both clubs grew after the wage cap was removed in the 60's. Before then the competition for cups and titles was far more spread out. After it, it whittled the competition down to about 10 teams.
United were fucking massive way before the 60s — ever heard of ‘The Busby Babes’ — winning their first title in the 1900s. The point is that It was still possible for the local millionaire to plough money into a lower division team and take them to top division staples. Check in with Elton John for a lesson in how to do this.

Now, jumping to the very top tier of English football requires a net input of a billion which was the amount that both Chelsea’s and City’s sport’s washing owners (illegally) put into their clubs.

The only owners to do so are sports washing oligarchs and sovereignties who don’t follow the normal business model for political reasons. If this were such a great business model then it would have seen it copied across the top leagues. It hasn’t been for blindingly obvious reasons.
 
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