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Tottenham Hotspur host Sunderland, who were the first club outside the original 12 members to join the Football League, at White Hart Lane in the 38th round of Premier League matches on Sunday 19th May 2013, KO 16:00.

Spurs are currently in 4th place in the table on 69 points, while Sunderland are in 17th place with 39 points. This will be the 114th time the two clubs have met.

The first meeting came at Northumberland Park in March 1898 when Spurs were playing in the Southern League in a friendly which Sunderland won 2-0.

A second meeting followed within the year when Spurs beat Sunderland 2-1 in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in February 1899.

Tottenham's first visit to Sunderland came during a mini tour of the North-East to celebrate the turn of the new Century with Spurs winning the friendly match 3-1 on 2nd January 1900.

The first Football League meetings between the two clubs saw Sunderland win at home 3-1 in September 1909 and Spurs having a comprehensive win in the return fixture at White Hart Lane 5-1.

Tottenham Hotspur's all-time record attendance of 75,038 at White Hart Lane came in an FA Cup 6th round match against Sunderland in March 1938. Sundeland won the game 1-0. This was the only FA Cup match Sunderland have won out of the 7 played so far with Spurs winning five and one game drawn.

The only two League matches ever played outside the Top Flight came during 1977-78 when Spurs won at Roker Park 2-1 but lost the return Division Two match at the Lane 3-2.

The clubs first met in the Football League Cup in November 1984 with Spurs drawing 0-0 away but Sunderland winning the replay at the Lane 2-1.
The three matches in the competition have resulted in a win each and one game drawn.

Since Sunderland joined the Premier League in season 1996-97, no further domestic cup ties have been played between the two clubs.

Spurs have a good record during the Premier League Era with 14 wins to Sunderland's 5 and the remaining 4 games drawn. Spurs have taken an average of 2 points off Sunderland in the 23 matches played so far.

The 2011-12 fixture at White Hart Lane ended in a 1-1 draw with Rafael van der Vaart putting Spurs ahead in the second half only for Sunderland's Asamoah Gyan to equalise three minutes later. The match at Sunderland resulted in a 2-1 win for Spurs with Asamoah Gyan putting the Black Cats ahead after 11 minutes before Michael Dawson's equaliser just before half-time. Niko Kranjcar scored the winner for Spurs in the 57th minute.

Last season's match at White Hart Lane in December resulted in a 1-0 win for Spurs with substitute striker Roman Pavlyuchenko scoring the winner with just over an hour of the match played. The three points won put Spurs in third place in the table for the first time during 2011-12. The match at Sunderland in April 2012 was a goalless draw which produced very few chances for either team.

In August 2012, Tottenham's full-back Danny Rose went to Sunderland for a season's loan and will not be able to play in the match on Sunday. The match at the Stadium of Light in December 2012 was won by Tottenham 2-1. John O'Shea opened the scoring for the Black Cats five minutes before half-time. Carlos Cuellar headed an own goal three minutes into the second half to even the game and Aaron Lennon scored the winner three minutes later for Spurs.

Overall, Spurs have the upper hand over Sunderland with 46 wins to 38 and 29 of the 113 matches played so far drawn.


Ben Alnwick
Darren Bent

Ted Birnie (Spurs player, Sunderland trainer & coach)
Ivor Broadis
Fraizer Campbell

Graham Carr (scout with both clubs)
Jim Chalmers
Pascal Chimbonda
Ernie Coquet

John Curtis
Calum Davenport
Jimmy Delvin
Márton Fülöp
Phil Gray

Jim Hartley
Alan Hutton
Joe Knowles
Steed Malbranque
Fred Mearns
Bobby Mimms
Bill Murray
George Payne
Andy Reid
Danny Rose
Louis Saha
Jimmy Seed
Paul Stewart
Teemu Tainio
Chris Waddle

Jack Whitbourne

 
Hmmm. Looking through the list of players that have played for both clubs I all of a sudden really wan them to stay up........who else is going to bail us out if we have another Darren bent??
 
The annoying thing with the results yesterday is that Wigan now need to win at Woolwich, not just draw. Imagine if its 1-1 with a few minutes to go, Wigan will have to throw loads of players forward.
 
The annoying thing with the results yesterday is that Wigan now need to win at Woolwich, not just draw. Imagine if its 1-1 with a few minutes to go, Wigan will have to throw loads of players forward.
But so would Woolwich. Either way, it'll be a great match.
 
I'm approaching this game in a completely different frame of mind to last years 'Fuloping'. Last year the scummers were very lucky (i.e. Van Persie) to be in contention for 3rd and we had absolutely thrown away our advantage despite being by far the better team throughout the season. We, for want of a better word, deserved 3rd last season.

This season it's all about 4th, a lesser prize in respect of the fact of needing to qualify before the CL proper, and I think it's fair to say we are somewhat lucky to be in contention based on our overall play (goal difference tells the story). If we get it, I'll be ecstatic. If we don't get it, I won't feel robbed in the same way as I did last year (twice).

To a certain extent, the injustice of Chelsea's CL win made me think differently about football. I still go mental for the right reasons, but I don't feel the pain like I did before. Chelsea's flukey CL win and the 'Fulop' moment last season broke the part of me that after 30 years supporting Spurs still clung on to the idea of fairness or balance. I expect nothing more than disappointment now with anything more than that a bonus.
 
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