No one is saying we should compare ourselves to Madrid or Barcelona. Some of us are just not happy with the direction we're heading and the decisions being made by the club.Stub hub, the German tour fiasco, One striker, CL ticket prices, no net investment in the team. The list is endless. And all on the back of record breaking profits. And don't forget, it costs more to watch Spurs play than the 3 clubs you mention. Surely you can see why some fans have a different take on things than you.
If it didn't cost more, we wouldn't be able to get nowhere near the top 4, let alone 5th. Our wage bill is higher than clubs bigger than us in capacity like Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa. Moaning about CL prices, yet moaning about not being in it. Record breaking profits that are going where exactly, straight into the pockets of the owners or on facilities, land, stadia, player travel/accomodation, professional legal costs - about £25m so far without a brick being laid.
Now if you don't want a new stadium & want low ticket prices forget about even thinking of CL. It ain't going to happen.
If you are not happy with the direction the club is going please tell me when you were the most satisfied with the direction of the club?
England are using our facilities now, that would not have been even thinkable 6 years ago.
We have never been this consistent in the league. The only time we have been top 4 side consistently was in the early 60's. The last 6 years have been our most consistent since then, and arguably in a much harder climate with a smaller capacity.
We couldn't even manage to win the league or finish consistently in the top 4 pre PL and Man City and Chavs.
We squeezed top 4 by beating a Man City that were in the first year of the Sheik and not yet entrenched.
Who lost out really, Liverpool.
We then got 5th, Liverpool 6th.
We then got 4th at the expense of Chavs, who lets face it didn't do themselves any favours. Even Newcastle were above them.
So, we base our right to be top 4 on 2 favourable seasons.
Stub Hub is bollocks yes. We, like Everton - both clubs who championed the big 5 and PL - now feel we need the extra revenue that is brought by advertising these crooks. Whereas Poo and Arsehole don't and have their own ticket exchanges.
Still, tickets for Arsehole and Poo games still make it on to Stub Hub.
Something has to be done whereas any ticket for a PL game that is exchanged on a secondary site cannot sell for more than face Value. Let secondary ticket exchanges make a charge for using their service, but make it illegal to sell a ticket more than it's face value.
If not, then we should be petitioning the Government to ban secondary ticket sellers.
Law:
Resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994.
This Act stipulates that it is an offence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated football match or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.
However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, by selling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a ‘free’ match ticket.
Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions in relation to the resale of football tickets:
- newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
- touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ with another product;
- section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitality package and people who provide tickets to touts.
If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law, they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.
Why are STE's legal? is it because of where the company is registered/ is authorised by the Government and PL or, as Boris says, is it market forces? However, EBay Google etc have ministers in their pockets, as we have seen with Uber.
We have to finish the contract with Stubhub. Yet it will not stop any football ticket being sold for more than, or 10x its face value on a STE.
Surely the PL - and any other league - can apply some legislation to not allow it's member clubs tickets to be exchanged anywhere for more than face value.
