Yes it is, it’s not even debatable - how many of any of those get in a combined 11 - 3 tops I reckon.
He has us underperforming - positivity thread or not
He has us underperforming - positivity thread or not
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Utter madness that anyone thinks otherwise.
I’ve heard it all if some on here think this Spurs squad is only the 11th best in the league.
Imagine we had Chris fucking Wood up top - people would apoplectic
I know, but if he can’t beat Elfsborg who will be on their season break then that should be instant dismissal.We've won 1 of our last 7 in all comps.
Can we beat Hoffenheim or Rangers away? - I’m not convinced
Even if we’re only marginally better than the Bournemouth squad, Ange having us 4 points below them is underperforming - it’s just a factThe former bolded bit does not justify the confidence of the latter
Besides, as I said this isn't necessarily my assessment of the individual players but the general assessment of the TFC brains trust.
I think it's obvious that the relative mid table strength of the Premier League has risen dramatically - as seen by Bournemouth beating City,Scum and ourselves. Fulham are a strong outfit with decent options off the bench. Even if this current Spurs squad is "better" than the above it's not by much. There is a vast difference to the elite squads of Liverpool, Chav pricks and Woolwich's (best 13 - they drop off after that imo).
You're an ignorant twat. You could've said all of that without the insults and bullshit but you're a spoilt prick who's infecting this forum with your constant moaning and whining and attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you. So let's add in insecure and neurotic too for good measure. You wouldn't talk to me like that face to face so why do it on here? Coward.
Arteta got time with almost identical league results to Ange as things stand (8 more points having played 5 more games).
His league form was shit by their standards and only winning the FA Cup saved him. And because they were patient with him they gradually reaped the rewards of continued improvement from YEAR 3 onwards.
There's nothing saying the same is true of Ange, but as none of us have a crystal ball we don't know. Personally I'm not for outing him to be replaced by Mason what would be the point? To satiate ignorant pricks like you?
And do everyone a favour and stop posting the same whiny bollocks every 5 minutes like a little kid who thinks if he stamps his feet hard enough he'll get his own way - you won't. And even if you did you'd only start on whoever came next if they weren't up to it. Fraud manager? More like pathetic fan.
Reply if you want but I won't be reading it.
That wasn't the question I was asking though is it? You said:
To which I pointed out what the fans on TFC actually think about our players if you read their individual player threads. Taken as whole it's clear that most people seem to think our squad can't possibly be any good because they don't rate our players at all.
Of course people on football forums are very often very fucking wrong and I happen to agree with
Deuterz
that our squad is better than those individual player threads would suggest and - therefore it follows that Postecoglou is badly underperforming. However it should be noted that you've already conceded that, actually, our "Top 4" squad is, in reality, only marginally better than Bournemouth's. This is bad in itself but when you factor in the injuries we've copped being 4 points behind isn't nearly as catastrophic as it initially sounds.
What is catastrophic is how far behind the elite our squad is. Even with my most positive Spurs hat on there's one player we have (Kulusevski) who maybe just maybe gets a start in any of the top teams.
We are underperfoming at all levels as a club right now sadly.
I can't see where our next win will come from tbh.
It'll end up being Liverpool and this thread will be full of Angeboi cum.
The only twats are the ones utterly ignorant to the shit show they watch every week and still arguing for this useless prick to stay in charge.
It's utterly absurd any of you still think he's remotely comparable to Arteta.
It's not even clutching at straws, it's fucking pathetic.
That's the most revisionist crap I've seen in one place since the bloke who built the Titanic walked back the it's unsinkable thing. I don't think that paticularly poster argues points with any kind ofvsincerity so it doesn't supprise or intrest me.
I have stopped engage with trolls as I don't belive he gives a toss, but the idea Sarr, Bissouma Bentancur Kulusevski Solanke VDV Udogie all of whom are multi cap internationals would not start at Bournemouth Fulham Ipswich is just inane trolling.
You don't get caps for countries like Italy and Argentina if you couldn't start for Bournemouth.Perhaps hes too thick to understand the axiom about form being temporary and class permanent. But what he definitely does not understand is his own facile argument is shinning a light on how these players are regressing under Ange Postecoglou.
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Just ignoring them now mate got the block going on the trolls, the Aussie nationalist. I come here to talk to Spurs fans who genuinely want us to be better. It's great Matt don't read their garbage.
That's the most revisionist crap I've seen in one place since the bloke who built the Titanic walked back the it's unsinkable thing. I don't think that paticularly poster argues points with any kind if sincerity so it doesn't supprise or intrest me. I don't engage with trolls asI don't belive he gives a toss, but the idea Sarr, Bissouma Bentancur Kulusevski Solanke VDV Udogie all of whom are multi cap internationals would not start at Bournemouth Fulham Ipswich is just inane trolling.
You don't get caps for countries like Italy and Argentina if you couldn't start for Bournemouth.Perhaps s hes too thick to understand the axiom about form being temporary and class permanent. But what he definitely does not understand is his own facile argument is shinning a light on how these players are regressing under Ange Postecoglou.
Are you incapable of basic reading comprehension.
i repeatedly said that these aren't MY assessments but the assessments you will find if you go and read the individual player threads.
I have also stated several times that I DON'T AGREE with those assessments and agree with Deuterz about our squad.
My goodness some of you so fucking thick it beggars belief.
Pretty much everyone who joined in or soon after June 2023 is going on my ignore list.
Blatantly clueless fucking Aussies who don't know what competitive football is.
my point is we have a better squad than Bournemouth - some people on the internet rating some of our players as worse than whoever doesn't change that in the real world.That wasn't the question I was asking though is it? You said:
To which I pointed out what the fans on TFC actually think about our players if you read their individual player threads. Taken as whole it's clear that most people seem to think our squad can't possibly be any good because they don't rate our players at all.
Of course people on football forums are very often very fucking wrong and I happen to agree with
However it should be noted that you've already conceded that, actually, our "Top 4" squad is, in reality, only marginally better than Bournemouth's. This is bad in itself but when you factor in the injuries we've copped being 4 points behind isn't nearly as catastrophic as it initially sounds.
What is catastrophic is how far behind the elite our squad is. Even with my most positive Spurs hat on there's one player we have (Kulusevski) who maybe just maybe gets a start in any of the top teams.
We are underperfoming at all levels as a club right now sadly.
There is a lot of love for Ange - if it was Jose or Conte people would be swinging from the rafters.
Unfortunately Ange is at best mediocre in Prem terms and one dimensional
To be fair, these assessments are usually borne out of anger/frustration. I think most would, with a clear ahead, admit that a lot of these players are better than we give them credit for in match day threads. We're pissed off fans venting at another bad result most weeks.
I don't like Brennan Johnson. But yeah, he'd be starting for these mid-table teams like he did for Forest. Bournemouth have forwards like that Ouatarra who came on and seemingly could not kick a ball. or Ryan Christie, who is 100% just a championship player like Harry Wilson (lol). Semenyo is very good but that's about it, Evanilson imo is significantly worse than Solanke.
I have lots of issues with the squad in terms of its ability to get in to the top four and win a EL trophy (which should be our realistic aim) but in terms of being ahead of Fulham, Bournemouth etc ... yeah, its a no brainer. Iwobi is a key footballer for them.
Shotgunofmichalebrow
on our playersSolanke:
Brennan:
Bentancur and Bissouma in one shot:
Romero:
Madders (on madders being compared with Rashford)
Vicario: damned with faint praise
I really can't be bothered to go any further but this is a snapshot of exactly what I was talking about. The players you DON'T FUCKING HATE will be HATED by someone else.
Now go put an "angry" emoji on this post. It's your own fucking words.
It’s not even debatable in my opinion - Solanke was starting for Bournemouth, BJ was starting for Forest, Biss Brighton. Son, Kulu, Maddison, VDV, Romero, Udogie, Sarr - they walk into all of these teams.
All of them probably have 1 or 2 better players than us in a particular position, but overall squad, we’re much better
While I dont agree with any of those sentiments I also don't see where he says they're so bad they wouldn't walk into some of these smaller clubs who are above us in the table.
Solanke:
Brennan:
Bentancur and Bissouma in one shot:
Romero:
Madders (on madders being compared with Rashford)
Vicario: damned with faint praise
I really can't be bothered to go any further but this is a snapshot of exactly what I was talking about. The players you DON'T FUCKING HATE will be HATED by someone else.
Now go put an "angry" emoji on this post. It's your own fucking words.
I suppose if he wants 7 of our first 11 sold they have to be sold to someone.... So you're right
