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Its the same way Top 4 meant nothing to me last year if it meant them winning the league. I know there is no correlation this season between us winning and them not, but the idea of them winning the CL is enough for me to not enjoy any idea of us winning the Europa League.
There’s a horrible inevitability about them wining multiple major trophies in the next few years, it’s utterly disgraceful how we’ve been allowed to go from being slightly better than them to miles behind over just a few short years, it’s criminal.
 
There’s a horrible inevitability about them wining multiple major trophies in the next few years, it’s utterly disgraceful how we’ve been allowed to go from being slightly better than them to miles behind over just a few short years, it’s criminal.
Yeah its hard to believe we haven't beaten them since Conte's first season. Feel's like a lifetime ago now. 5 defeats and 1 draw since then.
 
I wish i felt this way, I really do. But my hatred for them is unhealthy. Our Europa League win would be made feel like an Audi cup win if they won the Champions league. It would be patronising.

We're presently not good enough for the Champions League. Although winning the Europa league gets us back into the Champions League next season. Is Levy going to pay the wages for better players? I doubt it.
 
yeah we're done for tbh. Declan Rice showed why he is a 100m player last night. We will never sign a player like that ever under Levy
Levy has his minions scouring the leagues hoping to find the next Bale who is yet to reach his prime. It's what he hopes Bergvall and Gray will be. The problem will be even if they do turn out to be £100m players, they'll want to leave just like Bale, Berbatov et al before them.

So not only will we never sign such a player under Levy, if we do take punts on youth which turn into those kind of players we won't hold onto them.
 
We're presently not good enough for the Champions League. Although winning the Europa league gets us back into the Champions League next season. Is Levy going to pay the wages for better players? I doubt it.
Well, precisely.

What good is a CL place with Levy and Ange in charge, other than saying we qualified? He'll see us beaten like rented mules in that competition.

And what good is crowing about simple qualification for the CL when they've just so far exceeded us in performance in that competition?

All this fixation on Europa as some sort of a justification for Ange or for ourselves is absurd and super small club mentality
 
All this fixation on Europa as some sort of a justification for Ange or for ourselves is absurd and super small club mentality
Europa League and Conference League are for teams that are in the upper mid table to compete for, it's how we qualified for it being 5th last season. It's at our level. or judging by our disastrous league form this season, reaching the Europa League is above our level, we won't even make the Conference League.

So with that in mind winning the Europa League this season would be quite an achievement. Not that I'd be that proud of it but it's better than nothing. By no means would it justify the manager's or the board's performance.
 
I wish i felt this way, I really do. But my hatred for them is unhealthy. Our Europa League win would be made feel like an Audi cup win if they won the Champions league. It would be patronising.
I kinda get where you’re coming from but the reality is we need to win a cup to begin to claw our way back towards becoming the club of our NDA.
We’ve got to pray that we win the EL because it would be a massive stepping stone for us.
Added to that if they win the CL and we fail in the EL then that is the worst of all scenarios.
But unfortunately given how shite we have been this season the likelihood of us even progressing to the final, let alone win it, is very slim. Depressing.
 
I kinda get where you’re coming from but the reality is we need to win a cup to begin to claw our way back towards becoming the club of our NDA.
We’ve got to pray that we win the EL because it would be a massive stepping stone for us.
Added to that if they win the CL and we fail in the EL then that is the worst of all scenarios.
But unfortunately given how shite we have been this season the likelihood of us even progressing to the final, let alone win it, is very slim. Depressing.
Agreed. Europa League is huge for us. Back in the CL would be huge! The pain from watching them assholes win on Tuesday night has slowly died down, so I can see the bigger picture again. Tonight is massive!
 
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