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Match The New Harry Kane team vs. The Old Harry Kane team: Bayern Münich v Tottenham Hotspur, Saturday, 3rd August. High Noon!

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Hampshire Spur said:
That 5 game loss streak from last season still concerns me. Players looked shagged out and they did 1st half today. Way we rolled over to liverpool away and chelsea away last season was so spursy. My thinking if it goes tits up early in season get poch back. Tbh he deserved rebuild like he said back in 2019. He we are in 2024....rebuilding!
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...yeah, cos that'll push the 'rebuilding process' forward leaps and bounds!
Spend the last 2x windows starting to get Ange's players in, just to get rid of we have a shaky start, and give them all to Poch to get rid of and start AGAIN, AGAIN!

won't happen.

The ONLY good thing about that 2019 non event of a window, is that even LEVY will realise that can never be repeated...

For the first time in a long time I can see a structure and logic to the way we're building...
Rebuilding suggests knock it all down and start again...
BUILDING suggests longevity!
 
40 pts in 28

that's 54 pts over a full season

Last season that would have put us in 9th place 2 pts ahead of Spam, 5 ahead of Palace.

Pretty atrocious. Really, Ange lucky to keep his job with that form for 3/4 of the season
 
Crowny said:
If you can’t wrap your head around the last 70% of a task outweighing the first 30% - well then…
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Not wrapping my head around it...

It's just that the first 30% was exceptional, and though it doesn't compensate for finishing so poorly, the FACT we started so well, ensured that despite the poor 2nd half of the season, we still finished in a position no one really saw coming this time LAST year!

But yes, IF COURSE I'd have rathered us produce 70% of good results than 30%, but that still doesn't spell doom and gloom before the season has even started!
 
Hampshire Spur said:
That 5 game loss streak from last season still concerns me. Players looked shagged out and they did 1st half today. Way we rolled over to liverpool away and chelsea away last season was so spursy. My thinking if it goes tits up early in season get poch back. Tbh he deserved rebuild like he said back in 2019. He we are in 2024....rebuilding!
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1882 said:
Not wrapping my head around it...

It's just that the first 30% was exceptional, and though it doesn't compensate for finishing so poorly, the FACT we started so well, ensured that despite the poor 2nd half of the season, we still finished in a position no one really saw coming this time LAST year!

But yes, IF COURSE I'd have rathered us produce 70% of good results than 30%, but that still doesn't spell doom and gloom before the season has even started!
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The first 30% was “exceptional” was it? United 1st half at home we were garbage and should have been 2-0 down. Liverpool home - do you really want to analyse that? And Sheff Utd at home? - that was “exceptional” was it?. It was a lovely start to the season but it had flaws…

And just to put it in context in case you think I’m unreasonable and all about results - the 1st halves against Villa and West Han at home we played truly exceptional football and they gave me far more encouragement than some of our turgid home wins against Brighton, Bournemouth etc..

MOMENTUM! We don’t have any…
 
Crowny said:
Please explain the glass half full part of finishing 9th for the last 27 games of the season? - behind Bournemouth.
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9th is literally half way between relegation and winning the league. Some just see it as half way to relegation and start melting and moaning and calling for mass sackings. That would be a glass half empty mindset, don't you think?
 
Michaelspurs said:
I think we are expecting too much of our young players because of that brilliant Spanish lad in the Euros. Think what age Kane was when he became the great player he ended up being
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I think that's just the way things are nowadays. Everything is so reactionary. I blame twitter.

The future was amazing 2 weeks ago after we beat hearts and QPR, these kids were going to be incredible, get them in the first xi NOW. Now we're back down to earth and they're probably not going to be as good as what we have now. As usual it's very likely to be something in-between.

Fuck me, the post about bringing poch back :ange-facepalm2:that really is never going to go away is it. Still it's a better shout than I saw on another forum I used to go on, some cunt wanted lloris in as player manager after Conte lol.
 
Airfixx said:
I understand the existence of the "if you stand still you've gone backwards" idea; but if the pack around you aren't making moves then how have we gone backwards.

(Didn't bother to list peripheral stuff.)

Liverpool
In: None
Out: Adrian, Thiago & Matip
Man City
In: Savinho (20 yr old backup backup winger with no big league exp.)
Out: None.
Arse
In: Calafiori
Out: Smith Rowe, Elneny
Villa
= Fuck-tonne of ins and outs and don't really look any stronger for it (Onana <> Luiz).
Chavs
= Fuck-tonne of ins and outs and don't really look any stronger for it.
Man U
In: Yoro, Zirkee
Out: Varanne, Greenwood, VDBeak, Martial
NuCastle
In: Kelly, Vlachodimos (30 y/o Backup keeper)
Out: Anderson, Minteh (Only mentioned them cos they clocked 70m euro between the two).

In the whole list there are like two players you'd think are expected to be upgrades to the first XI.


If we do no other business I'll be pissed; but right now there ain't really any "backwards" going on.
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Because our 5th place finish was largely due to the incredible start to the season when we were a surprise package.

Our performances tailed off massively after the injuries and once the league figured out Ange's system. We will not have that advantage this season.

We have not upgraded the first XI in any way and likely start the season with Kulu as our number 9 which is, frankly, ridiculous.
 
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