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The run in....

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We do rotate though, in fact it is a much talked about strategy of ours, our full backs are the most rotated out of any team. Poch manages the minutes of Ali, Chadli, Son & Lamella. In the cups and EL he has left Kane on the bench. He has used Carrol and Mason and using Bentaleb in FA Cup. The only players who are not rotated have been, Alderweireld, Dier & Eriksen (Kane has also played a lot of mins but has been rotated). Wimmer has played 16 games all season, you can't be serious if you think he needs a rest. BTW John Terry played every minute of every game for Chelsea last year at the age of 34/35.

I know your stance, I am not trying to change your mind, I'm just saying it is no way a major cause for concern or at least the doom and gloom that you predict. I think we have managed the squad across competitions very well this year. YES it is a challenge for EVERY club who at this stage in the season who still have something to play for (that includes teams fighting relegation) and it will be every season. Dortmund played Bayern on the same day we played the scum, I bet on their forum there is discussion about injuries, fatigue and who plays and who doesn't. It's challenge but no different than it is any other for any other club, including those teams we are competing head to head with.
Good post. But the problem is, it's not really a problem/challenge for Leicester. And they're our main title rivals. They are five points ahead of us, which is already a massive advantage. We can't afford to let them have the advantage of fitness/ freshness over us as well.
 
Not predicting that but my opinion is that they will completely bottle it and so will Ranieri

I've posted that they have been fortunate to pick up 4 points in last 2 games so if we can go on another run then they will crack

Forget Woolwich

Forget Citeh

It's between the two of us and I back us!

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I like reading posts like this.

Teams have been underestimating Leicester all season. Mid or low ranking teams have thought, it's only Leicester, we can try and get all three points. Now they are thinking, it's Leicester, a point is a good result. That is a big change. It's hard to win games against ten men behind the ball. So far it seems they are perhaps struggling with this, in the Norwich and West Brom games. We will see how they cope with that and the pressure of being favourites. Both are new challenges for them.

On the other hand, we have harder fixtures, five points to make up, the EL, and they have a favourable fixture on the last day, as has been discussed.
 
Good post. But the problem is, it's not really a problem/challenge for Leicester. And they're our main title rivals. They are five points ahead of us, which is already a massive advantage. We can't afford to let them have the advantage of fitness/ freshness over us as well.
There is nothing we can do about them now, we took one point off them this year, they took 4 off us. I absolutely agree that it's not an issue for Leicester, the points advantage they have and being out of all cups gives them focus and additional rest/preparation. In addition they will also have coming up a further 14 days between games plus another 14 days when International friendlies are played.
I do not see them dropping points. They are not only the best team this season but they are by far and away the best team for this and half of last year, someone posted a table in here the other day based on the last 38 games and Leicester have absolutely smashed everyone.
There run-in too is by far the best of the chasing 3 clubs so where do they drop points? I can't see it. My only crumb of comfort is that the likes of Sunderland, Palace, fuck it, every team chooses to sit very deep against them and and counter on them, they will struggle to break teams down as it is not how they play. They may not loose a game but entirely possible they can draw a few.
Ether way for us to go on a winning run in order to overhaul a 5 point gap with the games we have to play is a massive ask.
 
I'm sure Poch sees it.
I'd rather finish fifth and win the EL than finish fourth and win nothing.
But I'd rather win the league than 10 Europa League's.

William Hill said they had a mere FIVE bets on Leicester to win the league at the start of the season. Must be thousands of bets on City etc.

LOL i hear this nonsense every year ..'Id rather finish 5th and win europa, than 4th with nothing' Reality kicks in and we finish 5th with nothing.To win the Europa will be harder than the EPL.Its just one loss and youre out. We can lose twice in the league and still win it (provided we win the others)..much more realistic but merely because of fixture timing..ie: Europa games have 4 days prep compared to epl 3days..they are automatically prioritized which annoys me
 
I am positive we can finish in champions league spots but if the worst case scenario happens (god forbid) and we finish 5th. Then next season we will need to lobby hard or get THST to ask Levy to push for EPL games after europa ( some of them not all) to be played on a monday. We cant continue to be caught in catch22 with fixture timing
 
LOL i hear this nonsense every year ..'Id rather finish 5th and win europa, than 4th with nothing' Reality kicks in and we finish 5th with nothing.To win the Europa will be harder than the EPL.Its just one loss and youre out. We can lose twice in the league and still win it (provided we win the others)..much more realistic but merely because of fixture timing..ie: Europa games have 4 days prep compared to epl 3days..they are automatically prioritized which annoys me
Mate I agree with you! I would rest players in the Dortmund games and concentrate on the league. I just think Poch is aware of the problems. We will see what team he plays on Thursday. If he plays a strong team in the Dortmund games and we drop points against Villa or Bournemouth, then he is to blame, but that hasn't happened yet so let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
I am positive we can finish in champions league spots but if the worst case scenario happens (god forbid) and we finish 5th. Then next season we will need to lobby hard or get THST to ask Levy to push for EPL games after europa ( some of them not all) to be played on a monday. We cant continue to be caught in catch22 with fixture timing
This is where I agree with you mate. My only problem I have with the completion is parity or a level playing field. The teams in CL rarely play with two days between their fixtures from CL to league game. In the 14yrs or 15yrs the scum have qualified for CL they have only TWICE played with a two day turn around, it's usually 3 or 4 days. This advantage is amplified even more when we are drawn against one of them after European game (Like when we faced Chelsea in the League Cup), they are already the favourites, yet they are given further advantage with more rest and prep. which makes the job of breaking into top 4 all the harder as you have to beat these teams in order to do it. If however, their is parity and both teams have identical periods between games then I have no issue.

That said if we make CL next year, scrap that, let us take the advantage they have enjoyed. Nothing would please me more than seeing how they cope playing every 3 days.
 
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This is where I agree with you mate. My only problem I have with the completion is parity or a level playing field. The teams in CL rarely play with two days between their fixtures from CL to league game. In the 14yrs or 15yrs the scum have qualified for CL they have only TWICE played with a two day turn around, it's usually 3 or 4 games. This advantage is amplified even more when we are drawn against one of them after European game (Like when we faced Chelsea in the League Cup), they are already the favourites, yet they are given further advantage with more rest and prep. which makes the job of breaking into top 4 all the harder as you have to beat these teams in order to do it. If however, their is parity and both teams have identical periods between games then I have no issue.

That said if we make CL next year, scrap that, let us take the advantage they have enjoyed. Nothing would please me more than seeing how they cope playing every 3 days.

Yes bang on the money, We always hear about the champions league teams facing the same recovery time when its much less frequent. Totally unfair advantage, For sports professional,especially our team who are the hardest working team in the league,these fine margins make big differences.Fergie and the wengophile know this and have always managed to influence fixture timings..even when they were never in the Europa. Time to level the playing field.
 
This is the time of the year where being in the Europa plays an extra 2 matches to the CL. It is a disadvantage and it would have been easier if the matches are more spread out like the CL. As I said earlier we have to rely on Poch to get it right in making sure no one plays tomorrow that we not then be able to play at the top of their game on Sunday. Alli cannot play and I would rest Kane and do not think Dembele or Rose will be fit enough for both games. Other than that I do not know and hope that whatever team plays that we are still in the tie for the return leg.
 
In my opinion:

We will get 20 points from our remaining 9 games, leaving us with 75 points
Aston Villa (W), Bournemouth (W), Liverpool (D), United (D), Stoke (W), West Brom (W), Chelsea (L), Southampton (W), Newcastle (W)

Leicester will get 14 points from their remaining 9 games, leaving them with 74 points
Newcastle (W), Palace (W), Southampton (D), Sunderland (L), West Ham (W), Swansea (W), United (L), Everton (D), Chelsea (L)

Woolwich will get 20 points from their remaining 9 games, leaving them with 72 points
Everton (D), West Brom (W), Watford (W), West Ham (L), Palace (W), Sunderland (W), Norwich (W), City (L), Villa (W)

Manchester City will get 24 points from their remaining 10 games, leaving them with 74 points
Norwich (L), United (W), Newcastle (W), Bournemouth (W), West Brom (W), Chelsea (L), Stoke (W), Southampton (W), Woolwich (W), Swansea (W)

But obviously there is no chance of me getting this right with all the twists and turns that will happen before seasons end. Let us hope I am correct.
You have a similar points quota to me but a draw against the worst Utd team I've ever seen ?
3 points all day long
 
A quick google suggests 150/1 was available.

Premier League winner odds at the start of the season: 7-4 Chelsea; 3-1 Manchester City; 7-2 Woolwich; 5-1 Manchester United; 28-1 Liverpool; 150-1 Tottenham; 300-1 Everton; 300-1 Southampton; 3000-1 Crystal Palace; 3000-1 West Ham; 5000-1 Aston Villa; 5000-1 Leicester; 5000-1 Sunderland; 5000-1 West Brom; 7500-1 Bournemouth; 7500-1 Norwich; 10,000-1 Watford

Halfway odds sum up crazy Premier League season


I saw an article the other day where a Leicester fan had placed such a bet - if they win the league he'd have taken home £250,000 .... he cashed out for £72,000.

Nice.
 
Not predicting that but my opinion is that they will completely bottle it and so will Ranieri

I've posted that they have been fortunate to pick up 4 points in last 2 games so if we can go on another run then they will crack

Forget Woolwich

Forget Citeh

It's between the two of us and I back us!

:pochohshit:
Just to put you right,we got fortunate against Norwich.

Against WBA we should have won easily, we hit the woodwork twice, numerous goal mouth scrambles, the ball just wouldn't go in.

The Watford game we deserved to win, I thought we did a very professional job on them.

As for the title I really think it's between you and us, you have really impressed me this season, I actually think your own downfall is that you didn't by a striker.

We are saying the same, as good as Okazaki is at pressuring defences, he has hardly any end product, shame really.

I notice a few of you are predicting wins against Villa and Bournemouth, Villa I agree with, Bournemouth on the other hand are no mugs, you will need to be on your game for this, they are a bit like us, scrap for anything.
 
Just to put you right,we got fortunate against Norwich.

Against WBA we should have won easily, we hit the woodwork twice, numerous goal mouth scrambles, the ball just wouldn't go in.

The Watford game we deserved to win, I thought we did a very professional job on them.

As for the title I really think it's between you and us, you have really impressed me this season, I actually think your own downfall is that you didn't by a striker.

We are saying the same, as good as Okazaki is at pressuring defences, he has hardly any end product, shame really.

I notice a few of you are predicting wins against Villa and Bournemouth, Villa I agree with, Bournemouth on the other hand are no mugs, you will need to be on your game for this, they are a bit like us, scrap for anything.

I agree with everything you said, except the league being between you and us. Mathematically, we're the most likely to catch up to you, but with the lead you have, the form you've shown, and the games you have left to play, its yours. You might fuck up, but its yours to lose.
 
I actually think your own downfall is that you didn't by a striker.
Hear Hear. To have only one striker on the pitch in the modern game is understandable. for a club of our stature to only have one striker in the entire squad is fucking unforgivable.
And regardless what anyone says, its cost us points already, and will cost us more points in the run in.
 
Where exactly have we dropped points due to not having another striker, what game(s)?
Its all about opinions of course. You've asked me mine, so here it is.
First 4 league games we picked up 3 points from 3 draws.Our only striker seemed out of form and low on confidence. Even you probably admit that. Had we had a back up we would, quite likely have turned two of those draws into wins. When we were chasing the game at old Trafford, we had no striker to call on to help Kane. If we had, we may well have scrambled a point. 0-0 draw against the scousers in Klopps first game. Kane went missing. No-one to bring on to offer an extra goal threat. Same goes in the goalless draw v Chelsea when they was at the height of their shitness. 0-1 v Leicester. A massive game we dominated but couldn't put the ball in the net. Something strikers are quite good at. Especially if you have more than one option. I could go on. Even if we wouldn't have picked up a single extra point, do you not think gambling a whole season on one striker staying fit is irresponsible for a club of our size.?
 
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Its all about opinions of course. You've asked me mine, so here it is.
First 4 league games we picked up 3 points from 3 draws.Our only striker seemed out of form and low on confidence. Even you probably admit that. Had we had a back up we would, quite likely have turned two of those draws into wins. When we were chasing the game at old Trafford, we had no striker to call on to help Kane. If we had, we may well have scrambled a point. 0-0 draw against the scousers in Klopps first game. Kane went missing. No-one to bring on to offer an extra goal threat. Same goes in the goalless draw v Chelsea when they was at the height of their shitness. 0-1 v Leicester. A massive game we dominated but couldn't put the ball in the net. Something strikers are quite good at. Especially if you have more than one option. I could go on. But then again, your question is such a fucking dumb one I don't think I'll bother. Even if we wouldn't have picked up a single extra point, do you not think gambling a whole season on one striker staying fit is irresponsible for a club of our size.?
Why the fucking hostility fella? You made a specific claim, I was interested in knowing what the specifics were. Which you have done.
Don't think I'll bother further responding, you clearly need a girl friend.
 
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