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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Spursidol said:
He was at Lyon and had one maybe 2 seasons playing there. One truely elite game playing Man City.

Either way was poor from the start of his time at Spurs under Poch. Didn't improve under Mourhino or under coaches at all the loan clubs.

Only common factor I could see is he was very happy to be highly paid, but found football to be a necessary evil into which he put in as much as effort as felt like on the day.
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In all fairness to Jose; he went all-out to try and get Ndombele firing (he could obviously see the talent was there; otherwise he wouldn't have bothered to break covid rules in order to giving him 1-to-1 training).
 
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Richard Arlison said:
We were talking about Liverpool here. Stay on track.

They broke transfer records for Alisson and VVD and those players formed the spine of their PL and CL winning team. They’ve just won the PL and broken a transfer record again to win the CL.

It’s called conviction. I hate that they have owners who are committed to winning not talking about winning.

You can talk about big transfers not being worth it but all those big transfers went to teams trying to win.

How many of the recent PL and CL titles were won by teams that didn’t have the conviction to pay top end wages and/or top end transfer fees?
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You’ve looked at a successful team and asked yourself how to emulate them which is reasonable.

But there are two problems with this.

1) You have to look at all the transfers which led to their success rather than cherrypicking a few of their most expensive.

For a start to get the most expensive good signings you have to get expensive poor signings - Nunez and Keita is 130m of wasted money. To get the 70m gen, you might need to buy a 70m dud.

Salah was either an unusually skilful or an unusually lucky signing (maybe both). That’s a generational signing to build a team around.

The bulk of their team has been built around 40m players. Fabinho, Jota, McAllister, Gakpo, Salah, Mané, konate, Gravenberch, we’re all around or less than 40m.

2) There are also non-transfer reasons for their success. They hired Klopp who was the best or joint best coach in the world for 7/8 years. He made players better and the whole better than the sum of its parts. Klopp was by far the most valuable part of their success.

Also - for whatever it’s worth, Liverpool are the biggest club in the U.K. Their reputation is much higher than ours and that counts for something.
 
Dr Rocktopus said:
I don't disagree but there's also the issue of us being absolutely shit at big money signings. Ndombele being a great example. Sanchez, Richarlison, Bentley and a whole host of others.

We need to spend big but spend wisely.
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I reckon that Levy thinks there's a Modric/Berbatov/Bale out there to be found relatively cheaply, who could help the team and pacify the supporters for a few years, and then be sold on for a large profit. Maybe he thinks some of these young players that have been acquired recently will be the next Spurs legends. Thus, spending big hasn't usually been successful because most if not all of our over £50m priced players that were acquired could be arguably deemed as flops. Not scoring enough goals, lazy, being injured too often. not suited to the Premier League, poor first touch, and probably other reasons that have been mooted which I can't think of right now.

I'd actually be surprised if the club sign more than one player over £50m this transfer window, and that's likely to be a stand out player at one of the mid table Premier League clubs. I'm not suggesting signing such a player is a bad idea but it will follow the Richarlison, Solanke, Maddison (yes I know JM wasn't from a mid table PL club at the time) and some young guns with potential. So far it's Tel.

I really don't know, is Levy and co banking on Frank transforming our young players into Spurs legends, atm I can't see where the next one is coming from using last season as a point of reference.
 
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LeParisien said:
You’ve looked at a successful team and asked yourself how to emulate them which is reasonable.

But there are two problems with this.

1) You have to look at all the transfers which led to their success rather than cherrypicking a few of their most expensive.

For a start to get the most expensive good signings you have to get expensive poor signings - Nunez and Keita is 130m of wasted money. To get the 70m gen, you might need to buy a 70m dud.

Salah was either an unusually skilful or an unusually lucky signing (maybe both). That’s a generational signing to build a team around.

The bulk of their team has been built around 40m players. Fabinho, Jota, McAllister, Gakpo, Salah, Mané, konate, Gravenberch, we’re all around or less than 40m.

2) There are also non-transfer reasons for their success. They hired Klopp who was the best or joint best coach in the world for 7/8 years. He made players better and the whole better than the sum of its parts. Klopp was by far the most valuable part of their success.

Also - for whatever it’s worth, Liverpool are the biggest club in the U.K. Their reputation is much higher than ours and that counts for something.
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Mane was available to us when we were challenging, we wouldn’t pay the wages he went to Liverpool .
 
LeParisien said:
You’ve looked at a successful team and asked yourself how to emulate them which is reasonable.

But there are two problems with this.

1) You have to look at all the transfers which led to their success rather than cherrypicking a few of their most expensive.

For a start to get the most expensive good signings you have to get expensive poor signings - Nunez and Keita is 130m of wasted money. To get the 70m gen, you might need to buy a 70m dud.

Salah was either an unusually skilful or an unusually lucky signing (maybe both). That’s a generational signing to build a team around.

The bulk of their team has been built around 40m players. Fabinho, Jota, McAllister, Gakpo, Salah, Mané, konate, Gravenberch, we’re all around or less than 40m.

2) There are also non-transfer reasons for their success. They hired Klopp who was the best or joint best coach in the world for 7/8 years. He made players better and the whole better than the sum of its parts. Klopp was by far the most valuable part of their success.

Also - for whatever it’s worth, Liverpool are the biggest club in the U.K. Their reputation is much higher than ours and that counts for something.
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Salah is well known to have been rejected by Klopp.

But Klopp had his arm twisted behind his back by Edwards (DoF and a total data lead man) so Klopp very reluctantly

Klopp is on record as being 'extremely grateful' to Edwards in forcing him to take Salah, who has proved to be an inspired and durable.

So the trouble is even on big signings - who do you believe is correct in identifying players when Klopp (a dominant manager in Germany before going to Liverpool) can get it wrong
 
Spursidol said:
Salah is well known to have been rejected by Klopp.

But Klopp had his arm twisted behind his back by Edwards (DoF and a total data lead man) so Klopp very reluctantly

Klopp is on record as being 'extremely grateful' to Edwards in forcing him to take Salah, who has proved to be an inspired and durable.

So the trouble is even on big signings - who do you believe is correct in identifying players when Klopp (a dominant manager in Germany before going to Liverpool) can get it wrong
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Back the manager … !!
 
LeParisien said:
You’ve looked at a successful team and asked yourself how to emulate them which is reasonable.

But there are two problems with this.

1) You have to look at all the transfers which led to their success rather than cherrypicking a few of their most expensive.

For a start to get the most expensive good signings you have to get expensive poor signings - Nunez and Keita is 130m of wasted money. To get the 70m gen, you might need to buy a 70m dud.

Salah was either an unusually skilful or an unusually lucky signing (maybe both). That’s a generational signing to build a team around.

The bulk of their team has been built around 40m players. Fabinho, Jota, McAllister, Gakpo, Salah, Mané, konate, Gravenberch, we’re all around or less than 40m.

2) There are also non-transfer reasons for their success. They hired Klopp who was the best or joint best coach in the world for 7/8 years. He made players better and the whole better than the sum of its parts. Klopp was by far the most valuable part of their success.

Also - for whatever it’s worth, Liverpool are the biggest club in the U.K. Their reputation is much higher than ours and that counts for something.
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But the courage and conviction to go after record transfers, even after getting stung on other expensive transfers, is a factor in their success.

Klopp without Alisson and VVD wins how many PL and CL titlestitles? If Slott didn’t inherit those 2 and Salah, does he win the PL?
 
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