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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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FightingIllini said:
Well that's what I mean, when the Saudi takeover happened everyone assumed it would be Man City on steroids, because that's what the Saudi wealth is relative to Abu Dhabi.

But while they've done quite well making a respectable, hard-working outfit out of them, both on and off the pitch there just isn't really any "we are going to be the best club in the world" energy to the project. THAT'S why Isak wants out, surely.

And it totally contrasts with City who fucked a lot of stuff up in their early years but had globe-bestriding ambition on and off the pitch from literally day 1.
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For the umpteenth umpteenth time what City did cannot be repeated in this day and age, even if your owners own half the fucking planet, because you can only spend what you generate.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is out of touch with how football works nowadays.
 
FightingIllini said:
Well that's what I mean, when the Saudi takeover happened everyone assumed it would be Man City on steroids, because that's what the Saudi wealth is relative to Abu Dhabi.

But while they've done quite well making a respectable, hard-working outfit out of them, both on and off the pitch there just isn't really any "we are going to be the best club in the world" energy to the project. THAT'S why Isak wants out, surely.

And it totally contrasts with City who fucked a lot of stuff up in their early years but had globe-bestriding ambition on and off the pitch from literally day 1.
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They've been hit by PSR, they initially overspent in the first few windows meaning they needed to cut back and sell Minteh and Anderson whilst City never had those barriers.

It's gonna take a while for them to establish themselves as a top team and the Isak news like this just cements it, they're even further away from the top 4 than us.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Is anyone sure we have real targets?

It's as strange a transfer market as I have seen for a while.

No doubt we are probing but it feels a bit like our play of last season. Laboured and ponderous.
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No, it's the exact same as it has always been under lange and paratici.

They don't leak transfers. They just seem to happen, out of the blue. It's been this way for a long time now.

Kudus, MGW, Takai, Danso, Kinsky, Solanke... I don't get why there's hysteria when we don't hear anything, or that tweets are taken as gospel. Nothing comes out of the club until it's basically done.
 
CJJ said:
No, it's the exact same as it has always been under lange and paratici.

They don't leak transfers. They just seem to happen, out of the blue. It's been this way for a long time now.

Kudus, MGW, Takai, Danso, Kinsky, Solanke... I don't get why there's hysteria when we don't hear anything, or that tweets are taken as gospel. Nothing comes out of the club until it's basically done.
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Why is MGW in your list?
 
Richard Arlison said:
But surely you’d agree that absent of any concrete news, the only assumption you can make is that there is no deal happening?
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One could just add easily assume that it's being worked out in the back rooms out of the spotlight. Which is why I'm not assuming anything. Once the window closes, or even much before that, we'll know for sure. Until then it's speculation with no credible evidence to back it up.

Put it this way, if the deal was dead, don't you think that would have come out by now? I could just as easily use this to assume it's happening. Much more plausible than " it's not happening because employee showed up for work," don't you think?

Nevertheless, I'm doing something that a lot of people have a hard time with here: I'm being patient and waiting for an official statement one way or the other.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Several seasons?

Are you sure about that?

Szobo was 70m, Darwin 90m, fuck knows what they paid in agency fees to get MacAllister for 35m
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They sold Fabinho and Hendersen to Saudi for 60, two youth players in Carvalho and van den Berg to Brentford for 50, got over 70m for Sane, Williams, Minamino and Grujic, etc etc etc

Their net spend over the last 5 or 6 seasons, even including this summer so far, is still probably the same or less than ours, and then you put the prize money on top for 2 x CL finals, 2 x PL trophies and 3 x top 3 finishes... and then they're still in their old stadium. It's not hard to figure it out
 
CJJ said:
That claim is exponentially more ridiculous. With what money, exactly?

It's not just the transfer fee (and no doubt they're going to be asking for near £150m), there'd be a shit ton of agent fees and then a contract on top of it.

What you're talking about is easily a £250m+ transfer
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It would be very expensive and impact our ability to do other business, and because of that and where our squad needs lie probably wouldn't be the smartest use of that money. It's not just snap of the fingers magic.

But, back of the envelope maths, Liverpool in the Europa League in 23/24 made around 86M more than us with no European football at all. That will narrow considerably for 24/25 and 25/26.

Our player amortization costs (payments owed on prior transfer fees) were only about 20M more than Liverpool's last year.

Liverpool has spent around 140M more than we have this summer so far.

Today, at this moment, we have greater financial capacity than Liverpool, and that's even leaving aside the PSR factor.
 
Get in! said:
One could just add easily assume that it's being worked out in the back rooms out of the spotlight. Which is why I'm not assuming anything. Once the window closes, or even much before that, we'll know for sure. Until then it's speculation with no credible evidence to back it up.

Put it this way, if the deal was dead, don't you think that would have come out by now? I could just as easily use this to assume it's happening. Much more plausible than " it's not happening because employee showed up for work," don't you think?

Nevertheless, I'm doing something that a lot of people have a hard time with here: I'm being patient and waiting for an official statement one way or the other.
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How could you just as easily assume it’s being worked on?

There’s nothing solid to suggest it was ever worked on in the first place?

May as well assume we are working on Rodrygo and Isak if you like, doesn’t mean you have anything solid to base those assumptions on
 
CJJ said:
They sold Fabinho and Hendersen to Saudi for 60, two youth players in Carvalho and van den Berg to Brentford for 50, got over 70m for Sane, Williams, Minamino and Grujic, etc etc etc

Their net spend over the last 5 or 6 seasons, even including this summer so far, is still probably the same or less than ours, and then you put the prize money on top for 2 x CL finals, 2 x PL trophies and 3 x top 3 finishes... and then they're still in their old stadium. It's not hard to figure it out
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Ignoring that you still want to talk about net spend and not realize the relevance of a wage bill, you said their spending has been the same as ours but described it as austerity for several seasons.
 
CJJ said:
Because it was a confirmed move that came literally out of nowhere. The fact that "My big fat greek chairman" came along and has (seemingly) illegally blocked it doesn't change that it is a 100% factual and confirmed move (as opposed to the made up stuff that gets thrown around)
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What are you talking about confirmed move?

The only thing that’s confirmed is MGW is still at Forest. Everything else was made up bollox by journalists selling clicks in the summer
 
CJJ said:
Because it was a confirmed move that came literally out of nowhere. The fact that "My big fat greek chairman" came along and has (seemingly) illegally blocked it doesn't change that it is a 100% factual and confirmed move (as opposed to the made up stuff that gets thrown around)
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Which proves how much fiscal capacity we have laying around!

We might have to back off MGW to sign Isak. Maybe not, but maybe so. Depends on outgoings, depends on a lot of things.

But today, July 24, 2025, we have more resources to dedicate to a pursuit of Isak than Liverpool does.
 
FightingIllini said:
But, back of the envelope maths, Liverpool in the Europa League in 23/24 made around 86M more than us with no European football at all. That will narrow considerably for 24/25 and 25/26.
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You think that Liverpool winning the PL and playing in the CL knckouts last season is going to narrow considerably compared to our 17th place and Europa League money?

:frankthink:

This season gone, they had got £175m in PL prize money alone, plus over £80m from the CL, which is £110m more than us with £125m ish PL money plus £20m or so from the Europa
 
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