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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Trotter said:
Liverpool are not called Dippers because of their pragmatic approach in the transfer market. 😆

The are called Dippers because of their fans, it is short for Bin-Dippers under the stereotypical always searching in bins for their next meal.
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Yeah I understand this. It's also my understanding that the reason why United fans came up with it was also to point out how much smaller and poorer they were as a club, having to search the bins for their next players, too.

Either way, Liverpool have had a pragmatic approach to the transfer market until very recently. It's why I can say that while I hate the fans, I respect and even admire the club, because they really have gotten to their platform through sheer excellence.

I'd much rather we followed their example than United's.
 
Trotter said:
Whilst your overall assertion that ENIC control Spurs is correct. The company you attach ENIC Ltd is really nothing to do with the direct ownership of Spurs just a UK subsidiary.

The immediate ownership of Spurs is ENIC Sports Ltd, a company based in the Bahamas of which I believe Collecott has no directorship.
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Point is that ENIC is nothing. It seems like it was a little pot of cash that Joe Lewis created so that Levy could run a little investment portfolio. As soon as the change came to buy spurs, every other interest was pretty much sold off to put everything into this club. The net result being that ENIC has nothing left to invest, and can only do so as a vehicle between the Lewis Family's cash and the club. I think it has been clear the whole time that Joe Lewis has no interest in running a football club, and I imagine - as a person who seems happy to just 'have' things (like paintings and other possessions) as long as they are solid investments. People talk about wanting 'levy out' but anyone you swap him with still has Joe Lewis there so it would the same constraints.

What the eventual recipients of his wealth think is another matter. I have no real idea if the club is their main nest egg or just a faberge egg on the mantlepiece.

This is what 80% of the league is like, though. Our owners aren't anywhere near the richest in the league. The 'investment by owner' graphs are typically representative of that but West Ham are typically the worst in relation to their owners wealth, although that would be a pointless exercise seeing as, on paper, there is next to nothing of value in the club. May as well not even be a london club if you're going to be the secondary tenant in a non-football stadium with the training facilities of a non-league club.
 
I see another coming in to sign for the Darkside. I also read we will have to sell a first team player to buy Poao, here we go again with old crocodile 🐊 pockets Levy. He is still the same miserable piece of crap 💩 where are the purported new investors?
LEVY OUT!
 
Bouncer said:
I see another coming in to sign for the Darkside. I also read we will have to sell a first team player to buy Poao, here we go again with old crocodile 🐊 pockets Levy. He is still the same miserable piece of crap 💩 where are the purported new investors?
LEVY OUT!
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey..
THIS IS THE FUCKING TRANSFER THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Management - ENIC

Thread starter changed from Carlito Brigante Deal to sell Ade to Besiktas has fallen through due to our asteemed chairman. Still arguing over a payment structure for Benteke. Don't do this to us Daniel.....not again
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septicsac said:
We should be bidding for Isak, we once had the ilk of Lineker, Kilnsmann, Ardiles,gazza etc, it's only Levy who has conditioned us to accept mediocrity.
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This was dealt with in the ENIC thread not too long ago, and it's a fantasy that this approach was successful.

Klinsmann won nothing. Gazza and Lineker won an FA Cup. That's it. They got us nowhere near the big table of football and instead set the club back financially. Sugar would have done far better to focus on building a squad of overall quality instead of buying one or two stars and hoping they could make us good again.

Ardiles was a different story, in a different era, but by the time Scholar took over the club in 1984 it had the largest debt in English football, he had to literally diversify club holdings into computer and clothing companies (Hummel and Martex) to stay afloat, and we became the first club in the world to be floated on the London Stock Exchange. And of course he had to get a loan from Maxwell to sort it all out.

All the commercialization and whatnot about modern football that you all hate? We helped start it, unfortunately. Back when you guys think we were 'ambitious', when instead Scholar was leading the way in basing revenue on merchandising and rinsing the fan's pockets instead of delivering on the pitch. That's why we won only a couple of cups at the start of the decade, and were barren for the rest of it, UEFA Cup aside. Rest of the time we were bouncing in and out of the bottom half of the table and being knocked out of the FA Cup usually before Round 5, with only 1 more final appearance where we couldn't beat Coventry.

The 80s were mediocre. The 90s were gash. The 2000s were mediocre, and the 2010s were the 2nd-best period of league and European performance we've ever known.
 
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septicsac said:
We should be bidding for Isak, we once had the ilk of Lineker, Kilnsmann, Ardiles,gazza etc, it's only Levy who has conditioned us to accept mediocrity.
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What? 😂

I hate this narrative that's popped up recently that this club used to buy the odd star, yeah so what? The rest of the team were shite and we could only support having those players because they earn more than their team mates, great strategy that lol

Even if we put in a bid for Isak now anyway, what's the point? he's not signing for us, no matter how much wages we offer... he'd only reject us which would ironically appease the naysayers' dopemine hit of mocking us yet again 'we tried' etc...
 
sudoku said:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey..
THIS IS THE FUCKING TRANSFER THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Management - ENIC

Thread starter changed from Carlito Brigante Deal to sell Ade to Besiktas has fallen through due to our asteemed chairman. Still arguing over a payment structure for Benteke. Don't do this to us Daniel.....not again
thefightingcock.co.uk thefightingcock.co.uk
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They already ran away from that thread when the facts started making them look stupid/forgetful.
 
Datzlo said:
This was dealt with in the ENIC thread not too long ago, and it's a fantasy that this approach was successful.

Klinsmann won nothing. Gazza and Lineker won an FA Cup. That's it. They got us nowhere near the big table of football and instead set the club back financially. Sugar would have done far better to focus on building a squad of overall quality instead of buying one or two stars and hoping they could make us good again.

Ardiles was a different story, in a different era, but by the time Scholar took over the club in 1984 it had the largest debt in English football, and he had to literally diversify club holdings into computer and clothing companies (Hummel and Martex), and we became the first club in the world to be floated on the London Stock Exchange. And of course he had to get a loan from Maxwell to sort it all out.

All the commercialization and whatnot about modern football that you all hate? We helped start it, unfortunately. Back when you guys think we were 'ambitious', when instead Scholar was leading the way in basing revenue on merchandising and rinsing the fan's pockets instead of delivering on the pitch. That's why we won only a couple of cups at the start of the decade, and were barren for the rest of it, UEFA Cup aside. Rest of the time we were bouncing in and out of the bottom half of the table and being knocked out of the FA Cup usually before Round 5.

The 80s were mediocre. The 90s were gash. The 2000s were mediocre, and the 2010s were the 2nd-best period of league and European performance we've ever known.
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Just another stick to hit the board with, don't people get bored of making up nonsense as if there isn't enough to criticise them for

Faux outrage Karens 😆
 
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