Sonny replacementLets talk in specifics then...
Lets say we bring in Gibbs White.....
Give positions or name where you want us to bring in to be 'seriously competitive without winning the league'
Richie Replacement
Biss Replacement
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Sonny replacementLets talk in specifics then...
Lets say we bring in Gibbs White.....
Give positions or name where you want us to bring in to be 'seriously competitive without winning the league'
Liverpool were below us in 2015.
Liverpool were our rivals in Poch time
Liverpool edged ahead of us in 2020s
Liverpool finished 46 points above us last season.
And here you are , saying forget all this 10 years of divergence - you want all that changed in 1 summer ....
Laughable....
In our hearts, we still see Liverpool as rivals. But current players like Isak want to join them, even if it means his starting place is not guaranteed because they already bought Ekiteke.
Stop being in denial first.
Accept we are not Liverpool rivals here & now....then we can start bridging the gap
Accept that bridging gap isnt going to happen overnight in one window, how much ever new money that is poured in.
In the last 3 years, fact is also, we let Newcastle, Villa to get the better of us.
Task 1 is to get back to the 5th and put the gap in between 5th & 6th.
Then, we improve and challenge there on
I get it, some of you hate saying, we cant improve in 1 summer - I say welcome to the real world
I didn't say "anti tottenham" but thinking the worst of the players is hardly what you expect of the site.
Since when is van der ven not one of the best defenders in the league all of a sudden? He's been better than Romero and is literally immortalised in the cup final with his goal line clearance. He's likely, at this rate, to be up there with Ledley as our all action hero.
The whole point is that people are basing the ability of these players based on how they were forced to play under Ange, and are ignoring the fact that despite being set up for 22 PL losses, they managed to somehow play really well individually in a game where overall we played shite, and to win a cup none of those other so-named gods whose boots they cannot lace did not.
It's the kind of thing where people still haven't learnt from the AVB era, where several players who were "not good enough" went on to be some of our best PL era players, all because of team form skewing the perception of individual ability
The point being made was that other managers had weak squads as well, I don't think it's a strawman to point out that this isn't necessarily the whole truth.A few people have said this. It's such a lazy strawman to the point that was being made
Liverpool were below us in 2015.
Liverpool were our rivals in Poch time
Liverpool edged ahead of us in 2020s
Liverpool finished 46 points above us last season.
And here you are , saying forget all this 10 years of divergence - you want all that changed in 1 summer ....
Laughable....
In our hearts, we still see Liverpool as rivals. But current players like Isak want to join them, even if it means his starting place is not guaranteed because they already bought Ekiteke.
Stop being in denial first.
Accept we are not Liverpool rivals here & now....then we can start bridging the gap
Accept that bridging gap isnt going to happen overnight in one window, how much ever new money that is poured in.
In the last 3 years, fact is also, we let Newcastle, Villa to get the better of us.
Task 1 is to get back to the 5th and put the gap in between 5th & 6th.
Then, we improve and challenge there on
I get it, some of you hate saying, we cant improve in 1 summer - I say welcome to the real world
Lets be honest though the ones highlighted you wouldn't miss ( it pains me to put Son in that category but as a club we should be being ruthless and not relying on him next season, what also worries me is Tel hasn't shown anything yet to even suggest he could give us half of what Sonny has over the years, so if he is the Son replacement then I'm worried. )
You missed Moore of your list , not sure he is ready yet either but look how Bergvail surprised us!
What worries me though is we can't be relying on the likes of Richie to be backup to Solanke, again good player but just never fit, I'd like to see us go out and get a replacement for the Good but just inconsistent Biss , and someone to replace Sonny and someone to challenge Solanke.
What frustrates me is I actually think we have the makings of a really good squad, and it would only take a couple more signings to give Frank all the tools he needs.
Kudus , MGW , Son replacement , Richie Replacement and someone to challenge Udogie for LB and it would be a really good window.
Man says:
How is Van de Ven not one of the best defenders in the league?
He then says:
Players are being judged on “how they were forced to play under Ange”.
Me:
But Van de Ven has only played under Ange and you think he’s one of the best defenders in the league
…..
Ha ha!! You actually have a valid point tbf.Load of boring cunts on here, take some time off Levybots.
From here on no more posts allowed unless it's a Here We Go from Ben Jacobs.
Admin lock thread.
You could argue that he did not play under Ange in the Europa final because we never played Ange ball. VDV was excellent t in that game.Man says:
How is Van de Ven not one of the best defenders in the league?
He then says:
Players are being judged on “how they were forced to play under Ange”.
Me:
But Van de Ven has only played under Ange and you think he’s one of the best defenders in the league
…..
Do you see now why people wonder if you might be on drugs ?
I know you can block users, but is it possible to block a thread?
Since the Matty Cash incident I just don't think he has been the same player , Maybe Frank can get the best out of him againHahahha, yea, sure.
One would not miss Bentancur ?
Whos been by far most consistent performer in midfield for what - 3 years now ?
YES I know, I said in other thread that he is bit of jack-of-all-trades and decent in everything, not super brilliant in any aspect. But as things stand right now he is still our no1 pick for midfield in EPL.
But sure, we would not notice him being gone.
Another example of brain-tumor-hazardous-ignorance.
Spot on regards suicidal high line…..with fullbacks inverted so Romero and Micky had to cover out wide as well thereby weakening our central defence and without a top defensive midfield player to help plug the gap.I don't like to resort to insults because usually people are on here to debate, but you do make yourself come across like a supreme tosser with the things you say.
I don't see how you can fail to distinguish between how a player is forced to pay and their individual ability shining through.
Let's put it very simply:
Our defenders were forced to play a suicidal high-line. Net result? Our defence leaks lots of goals and looks awful.
Van der Ven, however, was able to perform incredible recoveries to limit this as much as possible. Net result? Individually shows to be a brilliant defender, despite the above.
I've never know people to try and be so patronising whilst simultaneously saying such dumb things before.
Its also possible to just not click on it.....I know you can block users, but is it possible to block a thread?

What an awful post.
Bullshit. You're comparing two completely different era's you clown. The market prices then are incomparable to the market prices today.
Stop running the club down and belittling our past magnificence.
.... Where 'To dare is to Do' actually meant something
We used to be trailblazers in the transfer market. In fact we smashed the all time British transfer record to sign Jimmy Greaves. In his absolute prime
Imagine the excitement that would have given our fans who were around at the time.Bazali ?
Imagine this cuntsmashing the British transfer record
..or beating off Alex Fergusons Man Utd to sign the mercurial talent that was Paul Gascoigne lol
The only records he smashes are boardroom salaries and chairman bonuses
He’s not constipated today.GOAT You feeling alright? Not calling people cunts and telling them to fuck off? Never had you pegged as polite.
No, honestly, you got me worried