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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Liverpool were below us in 2015.
Liverpool were our rivals in Poch time
Liverpool edged ahead of us in 2020s
Liverpool finished 46 points above us last season.

And here you are , saying forget all this 10 years of divergence - you want all that changed in 1 summer ....

Laughable....

In our hearts, we still see Liverpool as rivals. But current players like Isak want to join them, even if it means his starting place is not guaranteed because they already bought Ekiteke.

Stop being in denial first.

Accept we are not Liverpool rivals here & now....then we can start bridging the gap
Accept that bridging gap isnt going to happen overnight in one window, how much ever new money that is poured in.

In the last 3 years, fact is also, we let Newcastle, Villa to get the better of us.
Task 1 is to get back to the 5th and put the gap in between 5th & 6th.

Then, we improve and challenge there on

I get it, some of you hate saying, we cant improve in 1 summer - I say welcome to the real world

The 2019 final really was the 'sliding doors' moment. There was nothing between us in any real metric at that point, and Liverpool had spent a few years slowly gaining. Not even Man City, with cheat codes, could beat us to our first top 4 finish - it took them a while to build up momentum (3 seasons for top 4, I think)
 
I didn't say "anti tottenham" but thinking the worst of the players is hardly what you expect of the site.

Since when is van der ven not one of the best defenders in the league all of a sudden? He's been better than Romero and is literally immortalised in the cup final with his goal line clearance. He's likely, at this rate, to be up there with Ledley as our all action hero.

The whole point is that people are basing the ability of these players based on how they were forced to play under Ange, and are ignoring the fact that despite being set up for 22 PL losses, they managed to somehow play really well individually in a game where overall we played shite, and to win a cup none of those other so-named gods whose boots they cannot lace did not.

It's the kind of thing where people still haven't learnt from the AVB era, where several players who were "not good enough" went on to be some of our best PL era players, all because of team form skewing the perception of individual ability

Man says:

How is Van de Ven not one of the best defenders in the league?

He then says:

Players are being judged on “how they were forced to play under Ange”.

Me:

But Van de Ven has only played under Ange and you think he’s one of the best defenders in the league
…..

Do you see now why people wonder if you might be on drugs ?
 
A few people have said this. It's such a lazy strawman to the point that was being made
The point being made was that other managers had weak squads as well, I don't think it's a strawman to point out that this isn't necessarily the whole truth.

As another poster points out, it's doubtful any of our present squad, would currently get in an all-time Spurs Premier League team.

Many of them are young though and while some of them may well turn out to be Bale or Modric level players, a couple of older more experienced additions would probably help both the team and individuals improve.

Ange said as much after the cup final. The problem is that our board sometimes seem to only judge a player on their resale value, as opposed to what they can bring to the team.
 
Liverpool were below us in 2015.
Liverpool were our rivals in Poch time
Liverpool edged ahead of us in 2020s
Liverpool finished 46 points above us last season.

And here you are , saying forget all this 10 years of divergence - you want all that changed in 1 summer ....

Laughable....

In our hearts, we still see Liverpool as rivals. But current players like Isak want to join them, even if it means his starting place is not guaranteed because they already bought Ekiteke.

Stop being in denial first.

Accept we are not Liverpool rivals here & now....then we can start bridging the gap
Accept that bridging gap isnt going to happen overnight in one window, how much ever new money that is poured in.

In the last 3 years, fact is also, we let Newcastle, Villa to get the better of us.
Task 1 is to get back to the 5th and put the gap in between 5th & 6th.

Then, we improve and challenge there on

I get it, some of you hate saying, we cant improve in 1 summer - I say welcome to the real world

Are we going to bridge the gap by acting the exact same way we have since Liverpool overtook us?
 
Lets be honest though the ones highlighted you wouldn't miss ( it pains me to put Son in that category but as a club we should be being ruthless and not relying on him next season, what also worries me is Tel hasn't shown anything yet to even suggest he could give us half of what Sonny has over the years, so if he is the Son replacement then I'm worried. )

You missed Moore of your list , not sure he is ready yet either but look how Bergvail surprised us!

What worries me though is we can't be relying on the likes of Richie to be backup to Solanke, again good player but just never fit, I'd like to see us go out and get a replacement for the Good but just inconsistent Biss , and someone to replace Sonny and someone to challenge Solanke.

What frustrates me is I actually think we have the makings of a really good squad, and it would only take a couple more signings to give Frank all the tools he needs.

Kudus , MGW , Son replacement , Richie Replacement and someone to challenge Udogie for LB and it would be a really good window.

Hahahha, yea, sure.
One would not miss Bentancur ? :D
Whos been by far most consistent performer in midfield for what - 3 years now ? :D

YES I know, I said in other thread that he is bit of jack-of-all-trades and decent in everything, not super brilliant in any aspect. But as things stand right now he is still our no1 pick for midfield in EPL.

But sure, we would not notice him being gone.

Another example of brain-tumor-hazardous-ignorance.
 
Do you see now why people wonder if you might be on drugs ?

I don't like to resort to insults because usually people are on here to debate, but you do make yourself come across like a supreme tosser with the things you say.

Man says:
How is Van de Ven not one of the best defenders in the league?
He then says:
Players are being judged on “how they were forced to play under Ange”.
Me:
But Van de Ven has only played under Ange and you think he’s one of the best defenders in the league
…..

I don't see how you can fail to distinguish between how a player is forced to pay and their individual ability shining through.

Let's put it very simply:

Our defenders were forced to play a suicidal high-line. Net result? Our defence leaks lots of goals and looks awful.
Van der Ven, however, was able to perform incredible recoveries to limit this as much as possible. Net result? Individually shows to be a brilliant defender, despite the above.

I've never know people to try and be so patronising whilst simultaneously saying such dumb things before.
 
Load of boring cunts on here, take some time off Levybots.

From here on no more posts allowed unless it's a Here We Go from Ben Jacobs.

Admin Admin lock thread.
Ha ha!! You actually have a valid point tbf.

The thread may as well be re-named the Levy /ENIC defence force thread

full
 
Man says:

How is Van de Ven not one of the best defenders in the league?

He then says:

Players are being judged on “how they were forced to play under Ange”.

Me:

But Van de Ven has only played under Ange and you think he’s one of the best defenders in the league
…..

Do you see now why people wonder if you might be on drugs ?
You could argue that he did not play under Ange in the Europa final because we never played Ange ball. VDV was excellent t in that game.
 
Hahahha, yea, sure.
One would not miss Bentancur ? :D
Whos been by far most consistent performer in midfield for what - 3 years now ? :D

YES I know, I said in other thread that he is bit of jack-of-all-trades and decent in everything, not super brilliant in any aspect. But as things stand right now he is still our no1 pick for midfield in EPL.

But sure, we would not notice him being gone.

Another example of brain-tumor-hazardous-ignorance.
Since the Matty Cash incident I just don't think he has been the same player , Maybe Frank can get the best out of him again
 
I don't like to resort to insults because usually people are on here to debate, but you do make yourself come across like a supreme tosser with the things you say.



I don't see how you can fail to distinguish between how a player is forced to pay and their individual ability shining through.

Let's put it very simply:

Our defenders were forced to play a suicidal high-line. Net result? Our defence leaks lots of goals and looks awful.
Van der Ven, however, was able to perform incredible recoveries to limit this as much as possible. Net result? Individually shows to be a brilliant defender, despite the above.

I've never know people to try and be so patronising whilst simultaneously saying such dumb things before.
Spot on regards suicidal high line…..with fullbacks inverted so Romero and Micky had to cover out wide as well thereby weakening our central defence and without a top defensive midfield player to help plug the gap.
 
What an awful post.

Bullshit. You're comparing two completely different era's you clown. The market prices then are incomparable to the market prices today.

Stop running the club down and belittling our past magnificence.
.... Where 'To dare is to Do' actually meant something

We used to be trailblazers in the transfer market. In fact we smashed the all time British transfer record to sign Jimmy Greaves. In his absolute prime

Imagine the excitement that would have given our fans who were around at the time. Bazali Bazali ?

Imagine this cunt :levystare:smashing the British transfer record 😆 ..or beating off Alex Fergusons Man Utd to sign the mercurial talent that was Paul Gascoigne lol

The only records he smashes are boardroom salaries and chairman bonuses

This is the whole fucking point! 🤡🤡 Teach is the one who bought up this stupid comparison with yesteryear as if we are playing by the same rules, we're not.

The market prices are incomparable to today's price you're right but the entire fucking football landscape is incomparable as well, this was a time before we had the Premier League capitalist boom, sugar daddies, blood and oil money, nouveau riche teams hoovering up the talent and thus increasing the prices of players throughout the league, player power etc...Yes our revenue has hiked up since then but so has everyone else's in this league.

There's clubs playing by their own rules in this league and using every inch to cheat their way round the rules and you expect us to be at the forefront of signing the best striker in the league, you're delusional.

To say we were trailblazers in the market at a time where we were on the verge of running our club into the ground and nearly going into administration twice is actually hilarious.

The thing that you jokers fail to recognise is that we had to sell Paul Gascoigne because we were in financial ruin and on the verge of going under. Do you know what bought that on? Financial and squad mismanagement by our (then) owner Mr Scholar, all well and good signing a big star and putting them on a big wage and not being able to sustain any kind of success or progress but that kind of strategy has a shelf life because it's impossible to compete if the squad isn't up to par.

BTW we beat Utd to the signing of why we beat Utd to Gazza by the way because we offered him higher wages and a bigger signing on fee of £120k.

It's all well and good brining up the times when we bought the odd star and paid big bucks but it was fleeting, it wasn't the norm for Sugar and it wasn't the norm for Scholar because the majority of their transfers turned out to be average or complete duds and what did it all fucking lead to anyway:

Scholar: 2 FA Cup's and a UEFA Cup
Sugar: 1 FA Cup and a Carling Cup

Big fucking whoop! lmao

No period of dominance, no league title(s), no European cup(s), no sustainability, no consistency, resulting in losing these players in the end because we couldn't sustain ourselves competitively and in the end we had to sell these players to stay afloat financially, this is the period you're hailing?

Anyone hailing our previous owners in terms of recruitment and strategy needs to have a look at themselves, it's an embarrassing and desperate argument.

Keep your shit arguments to the ENIC thread, tired of reading this disingenuous crap.
 
Sonny replacement
Richie Replacement
Biss Replacement

Personally, I would give Richy till Jan to see if he can stay injury free.
Because , when he does, he scores or assist consistently

Richy PL record for Everton - Goal or assist every 195 minutes
Richy PL record for Spurs - Goal or assist every 120 minutes (Kane is 106).

If Frank & his team and the new medical department can keep him fit, theres a class PL striker in him.
 
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