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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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This is how the bad guys win.

Just watch something else.

I agree it's not working, but we have to have something and now we know what doesn't work.

Needs to be a bit more like F1, where there's just a flat-out cap on what you can spend on transfers and wages, and then additional revenue goes to lower ticket prices, better stadia, not gambling the financial security of the clubs etc.
 
Not a complete liability defensively either. Could play deeper in a pinch or a team content sitting back. Always seems to put in a real shift.
It's a good point. Providing creativity and goal contributions in a Steve Cooper/Nuno team speaks to a more well-rounded player than doing so in a Brendan Rodgers team, with all due respect to James Maddison.

I agree it's not working
I mean, it kind of is working. Not without its problems and maybe the imperfections of a cost cap are better than these imperfections at the end of the day, but you can't ignore that PSR has changed the way that top clubs do business and entirely averted the Saudi's doing Chelsea and City on steroids at Newcastle.

I certainly thought FFP/PSR was going to make less of an impact than it has made.
 
I think all we need is a few experienced heads to help the young side we have grow and thrive in the short term (2 years)

Defence: Aymoric Laporte or Milan Skriniar

Centre Midfield: Jaou Paulinha

Wingers: Leroy Sane (hasn't signed for Galatasaray yet)
Garnacho

Number 10 type player: James Macatee Jack Grealish on loan

Striker: Dusan Vlahovic

All of these players could add to the squad we already have assembled and take a little bit of pressure away from some of the youngsters we have in our ranks like Lukas Bergvall & Luka Vuskovic (who most expect will grow into a world class defender but at 18 will require patience to get to those levels)
Mcatee and Garnacho are hardly experienced heads.
 
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Mcatee and Gar can are hardly experienced heads.
Your right but we definitely need someone who is capable of creating killer passes and has the skill set needed to be a number 10
Spurs being Spurs will not break the bank and Macatee offers everything i have said

Grealish on the other hand I see as more of a straight loan type with City subsidising his huge salary allowing him the freedom of first team football and possible return to the England side dependent on how well he performs win-win situation

Garnacho - may be young but his ceiling is so high and always looks to make something happen since bursting onto the scene there were always doubts that he would be sold and wouldnt fit in with Almirons style of play and tactics which has proven to be the case since he has taken over but that doesnt mean he couldn't fit in at another club such as Spurs
 
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City and Chelsea spend whatever they want to.

Forest, Villa and Newcastle get trapped by PSR and have to sell their best players year after year.
City's case is the alamo for whether FFP/PSR have any real teeth or not. Even if they don't convict on all charges, even some of 115 charges sticking should see them absolutely buried in sanctions. If they come out of it with a trivial point deduction and hefty fine it proves big clubs can do whatever they like with impunity and it will be back to making a mockery of the rules again.
The thing is if they were applied to the spirit of the rules and clubs weren't finding 1000 different ways to creatively account around it without being punished it actually would make the PL more competitive over time, top level clubs have more incentive to move squad and youth players on that they don't see making it in order to make room in FFP for signings, which in turn strengthens other teams that otherwise would not have that opportunity to buy said players but would be at increased risk of having their own best players poached because the top clubs can then buy with impunity. I think the days of Chavs/City hoovering up average players like Sidwell, Barkley, Sinclair, Drinkwater, Rodwell etc just to fill HG quotas are gone, parting with even £30m for a player just to make up the numbers does not gel with running a tight ship for PSR.
 
Semenyo links worry me a bit.

He's a good player, but not for 70 million.

I wouldn't pay any more than 50.

I do get the unfortunate familiar impression that we are going to be picking up the dregs left after City, Liverpool, Chelsea, United and Woolwich have done their transfer business.

And its shit.

I don't want to turn this into an anti Levy post, but I am sick of the way we approach the market. I totally get the data led approach but do we think those other clubs aren't also using data?

I just find it ridiculous with all our wealth, money, stadium etc, there's no reason we can't compete for these players other than a lack of ambition.

What will happen, is we will end up signing the players that the top clubs don't want, for a reason. They aren't good enough.

Which is why I think it will be a disgrace if we don't sign Eze. He's literally right there, we can offer CL football and he's exactly what we need.

It seems like we should have a clear run at him hopefully, so just do the deal.
The low wages model is an absolutely ridiculous way to run one of the supposed big clubs of Europe. Utterly ridiculous.

Pay high transfer fees to other clubs giving them money to sign other players but pay lower than top class wages meaning we can't attract the best players here. When you pay a high transfer fee it means you will usually lose money when trying to sell the player later.

For all the plaudits Levy gets for his supposed business acumen he really is out of his depth in trying to run a football club.
 
The low wages model is an absolutely ridiculous way to run one of the supposed big clubs of Europe. Utterly ridiculous.

Pay high transfer fees to other clubs giving them money to sign other players but pay lower than top class wages meaning we can't attract the best players here. When you pay a high transfer fee it means you will usually lose money when trying to sell the player later.

For all the plaudits Levy gets for his supposed business acumen he really is out of his depth in trying to run a football club.

He’s not running a football club, he’s running a real estate business.

The fans are paying the rent on an expensive house that he’s refurbishing to sell later. As Poch said, the players are the furniture but he’s doesn’t see the value in giving the house the most expensive furniture if he’s selling the house later
 
The low wages model is an absolutely ridiculous way to run one of the supposed big clubs of Europe. Utterly ridiculous.

Pay high transfer fees to other clubs giving them money to sign other players but pay lower than top class wages meaning we can't attract the best players here. When you pay a high transfer fee it means you will usually lose money when trying to sell the player later.

For all the plaudits Levy gets for his supposed business acumen he really is out of his depth in trying to run a football club.
The low wages model is exactly the way all football clubs should be run.
If you consider low wages (premier league standard) to be 40-60k a week.

Put the onus on the players to perform through Appearence fees & target driven bonuses add bonuses for team victories etc and there earnings will sky rocket.

For instance Dominik Solanke say he earns £75k a week
For every league Appearence he can also earn £15k
Every goal in the league £7.5k
If he scores a hat trick in a game £30k
Player of the month £30k
if he reaches 20 league goals 400k
Premier league golden boot winner £750k per season
If they win the league every first team player gets 1 million pound bonus
Cup victories % of winnings dependent on how far you go in the competition

And you start seeing how they can earn big money but they have to work for it
Giving them a basic base wage should be fundamental to be driven to perform individually and as a team and limits the costs to the club when they are injured or out of form

When a player is consistently smashing these targets in there contracts thats the time to renegotiate the terms with higher base wages and less personal bonuses because they are proven and to the standard you expect.
 
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Well, the players aren’t obviously worried about any punishment for city or else they would have reservations about signing for them. I think their business is a good indicator that unfortunately they are going to escape serious punishment.
Or they’re getting in early to sign players BEFORE they get relegated and a four window ban.
Always look on the bright side of life. 😀
 
Grealish on the other hand I see as more of a straight loan type with City subsidising his huge salary allowing him the freedom of first team football and possible return to the England side dependent on how well he performs win-win situation
Grealish and Davies in the same dressing room feels like such an odd couple scenario that I kinda wanna see it.

Somehow I bet that they'd be buddies.
 
The low wages model is exactly the way all football clubs should be run.
If you consider low wages (premier league standard) to be 40-60k a week.

Put the onus on the players to perform through Appearence fees & target driven bonuses add bonuses for team victories etc and there earnings will sky rocket.

For instance Dominik Solanke say he earns £75k a week
For every league Appearence he can also earn £15k
Every goal in the league £7.5k
If he scores a hat trick in a game £30k
Player of the month £30k
if he reaches 20 league goals 400k
Premier league golden boot winner £750k per season
If they win the league every first team player gets 1 million pound bonus
Cup victories % of winnings dependent on how far you go in the competition

And you start seeing how they can earn big money but they have to work for it
Giving them a basic base wage should be fundamental to be driven to perform individually and as a team and limits the costs to the club when they are injured or out of form

When a player is consistently smashing these targets in there contracts thats the time to renegotiate the terms with higher base wages and less personal bonuses because they are proven and to the standard you expect.
Deluded. Low wages, crap players. Bad performance.

Maybe we should have a low ticket prices policy to match.
 
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