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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26

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So we discard Germany totally? Personally I think Woltemade looks good and our own VDV is half decent
There's a certain type of player that appears to excel in Germany, it's a stat padders dream over there. VDV is a centre back and Woltemade a big burly forward (I'd also hesitate to claim that he's done anything to justify the fee) they aren't that type of player

Look at the numbers Wirtz/Xavi were putting up over there and now see how ineffectual they have been coming to England.

This isn't to say those two, or anybody else making the same move, won't ever come good, but you have to look at more than just a player doing well over there to judge whether it's worth bringing them here, and we don not have the luxury of bringing in another player who is going to take 6-12 months to settle in.

There are more examples than just those two, Sancho was brought up in the English game and struggled to have an impact over here after being hot shit in Germany.

This Leipzig winger should be giving everyone PTSD, and I'd wager my left testicle that Odobert would be matching his performance over there.
 
I highly doubt this but anyway...


Tottenham contemplate £40 million move for Jan Paul Van Hecke​

December 5, 2025 2:08 am

Tottenham could plot a £40 million move for Jan Paul van Hecke in future windows as Brighton are unlikely to entertain offers in January.​

According to Team Talk, Jan Paul van Hecke is a reported target for Tottenham ahead of future windows. Spurs are eager to bring in a quality defender to their squad, with the Dutchman being targeted in a £40 million move, either in January or next summer, as Brighton are unlikely to sanction a move next month.

The January window does bring about opportunities to a few clubs but tensions for others, esp
 
I doubt this rumor also...
If Barca want him and can afford him, well, take a guess where Rashford will end up...


Sources: Premier League club ready to compete with Barca to sign Marcus Rashford​

Manchester United FC
Posted by Ahad Shaukat


Barcelona appear to be leading the race to secure Marcus Rashford on a permanent deal, with the English forward thriving since his move from Manchester United last summer, sources close to the agents industry have informed CaughtOffside.


Rashford joined the Catalan giants on a season-long loan after Barça missed out on Athletic Bilbao’s Nico Williams, and he has since become an integral part of Hansi Flick’s attack.

Rashford has made an immediate impression at Barcelona, both on and off the pitch.

The 27-year-old has also adapted quickly to life in Spain, repeatedly expressing how settled and happy he feels in Catalonia.

The attacker has scored six goals and provided nine assists for Barcelona in all competitions this season.
 
People seeking some simplistic failsafe scouting strategy based upon fixed criteria like league, size, G&A etc. are chasing their tails.

Prime example: Modric..... Little bloke from a backwater league...... Turned out to be a GOAT.

Scouting needs to dig deeper and concern itself with combined factors/attributes.

I might be misremembering but didn't Modric play England off the park in a qualifier or friendly not long before joining us?
 
Which leagues are acceptable to buy from? Son played in Germany, Eriksen in the Dutch league, Dele Alli bought from league one, Van de Ven played in Germany..and so on
It's acceptable to buy from any of the leagues, it just takes a bit more attention to detail than eying up the hype train and signing an AM because they scored 90 goals and 300 assists in 17.5 games in the Bundesliga.

Seriously, Wirtz and Xavi had insane g/a stats over there and they have what, 1 assist between them by December here?
 
He's been outstanding for Norway but for Leipzig he's not been that hot...
Any transfer involves risk. What is known is that both Nusa and Semenyo can give world class performances against top level opponents. They have shown that many times over the last few years.

Odobert, Tel, and Johnson are all a couple of levels below both players at the moment, and I have never seen anything to suggest they will be great players in the future. So both Nusa and Semenyo would be instant upgrades imv.
 
Any transfer involves risk. What is known is that both Nusa and Semenyo can give world class performances against top level opponents. They have shown that many times over the last few years.

Odobert, Tel, and Johnson are all a couple of levels below both players at the moment
, and I have never seen anything to suggest they will be great players in the future. So both Nusa and Semenyo would be instant upgrades imv.
Sure Norwegian guy, I'll take you're totally unbiased opinion that Nusa is the dog's bollocks, why not...

:frankthumbs:
 
It's acceptable to buy from any of the leagues, it just takes a bit more attention to detail than eying up the hype train and signing an AM because they scored 90 goals and 300 assists in 17.5 games in the Bundesliga.

Seriously, Wirtz and Xavi had insane g/a stats over there and they have what, 1 assist between them by December here?
Why should Wirtz and Xavi define transfers from Germany? I would say what they have in common is that they are too weak physically and so far have struggled with the tempo and aggression of the PL. That is about them as players, not the league they come from. Van de Ven didn't have those issues, neither did Etikete f.ex.
 
Why should Wirtz and Xavi define transfers from Germany? I would say what they have in common is that they are too weak physically and so far have struggled with the tempo and aggression of the PL. That is about them as players, not the league they come from. Van de Ven didn't have those issues, neither did Etikete f.ex.
I'm sorry, were we judging VDV on his absurd goal/assist statistics were we???

Quite obviously not.

Xavi and Wirtz are indicative of it being much easier to achieve hugely impressive tallies of goals and assists in that league, and should give anyone pause for thought before going ahead and signing a teenage winger from Leipzig, let alone Nusa who doesn't actually appear to even have managed to be impressive in that league!
 
I'm sorry, were we judging VDV on his absurd goal/assist statistics were we???

Quite obviously not.

Xavi and Wirtz are indicative of it being much easier to achieve hugely impressive tallies of goals and assists in that league, and should give anyone pause for thought before going ahead and signing a teenage winger from Leipzig, let alone Nusa who doesn't actually appear to even have managed to be impressive in that league!
What's the correct amount of G/A before an attacker from the German league can be considered? Not absurdly high I guess, those players are just stat padding, but also more modest numbers are bad?
 
I'm sorry, were we judging VDV on his absurd goal/assist statistics were we???

Quite obviously not.

Xavi and Wirtz are indicative of it being much easier to achieve hugely impressive tallies of goals and assists in that league, and should give anyone pause for thought before going ahead and signing a teenage winger from Leipzig, let alone Nusa who doesn't actually appear to even have managed to be impressive in that league!
They’re a few months in, playing in struggling teams. They night flop but it’s too soon to tell.
 
What's the correct amount of G/A before an attacker from the German league can be considered? Not absurdly high I guess, those players are just stat padding, but also more modest numbers are bad?
I haven't said that there is a correct amount, but it's clear that being able to blow that league away doesn't simply btranslate to being able to produce anything in the PL.

The other major issue with signing prospects from there, is that the clubs in Germany aren't all that skint compared to the rest of Europe, and so are also able to demand mega-fees for these "punts".

Odobert would go over there and outshine fucking Nusa, who isn't even impressive against the farmers, and the other teenage winger at Leipzig, quite comfortably.

So there is feck all point in signing another youngster of that ilk right now.
 
Wouldn’t it be great if ; with all our money and scouts and contacts IF for once we paid the going rate ( with appropriate remuneration) for a player ( young or old ) who may actually improve us . And do so quickly.

I referred in another thread about us signing Colin Lee ( from FOURTH division Torquay ) and three days later he scored 4 goals for us on his debut.

I know lightning won’t strike twice, but it can’t be that difficult for the bods ( who are paid a lot our of money to do so ) to buy someone, anyone who might make us , you know ;better. Quite quickly.

How many “ prospects “ do we need out on loan ?
 
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