True, but times have changed enormously, so using the cost comparison between the two is a bit disingenuous. Potential was relatively cheap back in the day, now it's a premium, particularly for home grown talent.
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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26
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I think you're right. I vaguely remember him having a breakout game where he was excellent, then he really kicked on for us.
I remember how gutted we all were when he opted for Utd. IIRC, he went for £32M, which was a huge sum back then.
Clearly not
So in everything bar two metrics Anderson is ahead. I was nearly right
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Of course Wharton is very good too. Both are likely to cost the same amount but imo Anderson would be a sensational signing for this club.
Eriksen was pretty much the same. I can recall multiple posters bagging him out because he didn't get "stuck in," but Eriksen was excellent at cutting down passing lanes and forcing opposition to play into areas that we wanted them to play in.
It's an element of defensive work that I think a lot of fans miss, or just don't appreciate. Defending isn't just about tackling for and winning the ball, it's also about making your opposition go where you want them to.
Yeah it was his first minutes for us. Santini left a couple weeks later and Jol got the team going eventually. Carrick was great from day one when he started playing. massive miss when he left.
Think it was £18m.
So in everything bar two metrics Anderson is ahead. I was nearly right
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Of course Wharton is very good too. Both are likely to cost the same amount but imo Anderson would be a sensational signing for this club.
Yeah 'nearly'
Think both would be very good. Anderson much more now, maybe even higher ceiling, but Wharton has the ability to stay near/match/possibly surpass, plus I just get the feeling Anderson has a game which burns out significantly quicker than Wharton.So in everything bar two metrics Anderson is ahead. I was nearly right
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Of course Wharton is very good too. Both are likely to cost the same amount but imo Anderson would be a sensational signing for this club.
So 8years of Wharton as an England squad level player, with 3-4 years of being an England starter level, might be better than 3-5years of Anderson, more driving hence less enduring.
Both would be sweet.
I agree. Put differently, buying potential is less and less attractive because the risk buys more with the seller than the buyer.
Because everyone scouts everything betting on potential is a mugs game in my opinion. Across the world there are literally thousands of young players with top talent. Finding a teenager that will train on is a lottery, with about the same chance of success.
Just googled it and you're right. I also asked what an £18M player, from 2006, cost in today's market, and the answer is shocking.
Based on football-specific inflation and the rapid growth of transfer fees between 2006 and 2026, an £18 million player in 2006 would likely cost between £100 million and £135 million+ in 2026.
So Wharton, at around the £100M mark, would be comparable to what Utd paid for Carrick.
Utd didn’t mess about back then, bludgeoning any rising teams best players from them.
Mostly us, it seemed like that anyway.
No idea mate but we really do need a striker. Not desperately but certainly essential.
Zokora wasn’t very good though. Carrick was incredible on the ball and that massively affects defensive numbers as it enables a team to control the game, he was a huge loss. The argument around Carrick went on for years and England where very hesitant to use him in the earlier part of his career because he was seen as having defensive lapses which sometimes happened with us, he got rid of that at United probably because they had better coaches.
The point about Wharton is that he isn’t elite defensively but he is on the ball and that will help us defending because we won’t lose the ball as easily and we won’t get pressed as easily thus we won’t give away as many chances losing the ball as we will be stronger in possession.
It was £18million but that was huge money then before another big spike in prices in the next couple of years. Read somewhere it was equivalent to £69 million in 2023 terms. It was generally felt to be too much but then they won three titles on the bounce and the CL with him.
It is but that was my point. Modric when he first came sometimes was in the wrong place, you watched him towards the end with us and he was always in the right place making it hard for the opposition to play through. Carrick had the same thing, at United he massively improved his positioning in front of the backline. I remember have conversations with United fans at the time and they said he improved so much in his time at the club. Wharton isn’t bad defensively but he isn’t elite but he will improve over time but he is already amazing on the ball. He would be a great but very expensive signing IMO. The issue with his defensive positioning Modric and Carrick got better so why not Wharton.
In the modern game Glenn gets picked at #10..... Not #6.
Not as much of a shitter as not buying Olise for 7m or Eze for 10M from the champo
Agree tho, 3 massive f ups!
In the PL yeah, perhaps not in Spain.