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Manager Thomas Frank
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Couldn't have summed it up better. He has faults, but at the end of the day, the issue is the squad.
I think the reality is that Frank has to rebuild this squad , we have some very light weight players that have had plenty of opportunity to show they deserve a place in the squad but have failed time and again .
Frank is working with some very average talent .
I'm sure he got a surprise when he started working with some of these players .
Frank is working with some very average talent .
I'm sure he got a surprise when he started working with some of these players .
We have one point more this season than same time last season conceding two more goals. By this time last season we had wins of 4-0, 3-1, 3-0, 4-1 with 4-1 and 4-0 wins against Villa and Man C to come within the next month. Hopefully the wheels don’t fall off this season like they did last.
We did have the benefit at this time last season of having Maddison, Kulu and yes Solanke wasn’t playing too bad. Son as well.
Would love to see Solanke playing with Maddison, Kulu and Kudus wide with Bergvall as no. 8. Think we’d see a few more goals under Frank with that line up
This squad is not dog meat. A more competent coach would be getting much more out of them...
Ange didn't go balls to win - that's a myth.
He just had a stupid idea - that you should attack with defenders and mediocre players and play triangles around your own keeper.
At least under Ange there was hope.
We kind of thought there could be a high.
Frank is nowhere near as terrible as Ange could be - but so far he has not shown anything to suggest he will be better than mediocre.
Early days for sure - but it's not like he has a fantastic pedigree.
I would put it 30/70 against him being any good.
We are way better man for man than that Monaco team, with the exception of Akliouche, missing half their half team and they absolutely played us off the park. At least there's someone here that hasn't got their head stuck in sand.
That Monaco team would be near the bottom of the PL.
Our squad is rancid mate
Oh I know it is. But he should be able to have them playing a semblance of football. Playing whatever the hell it is, shite at the back, non existent going forward, aimless passes around the middle, get it to Kudus ball is pathetic. I doubt he'll be here by January with the results matching performances more than they were. This was one of the few games I thought we'd win between now and December, another brutal showing.
another game hes started bentancur next to pal and weve been shite.....when will the penny drop! how about giving gray a run next to pal!
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State of the squad sinking in it would seem.
Better he acknowledges it sooner than later and starts necessary conversations with Vinai/Fab on what needs to be cleared out/brought in.
We all know who's consistently shite, but he does need to see it for himself over a bit of time tbf.
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Better he acknowledges it sooner than later and starts necessary conversations with Vinai/Fab on what needs to be cleared out/brought in.
We all know who's consistently shite, but he does need to see it for himself over a bit of time tbf.
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We have one more point than we did at the same stage of the league last year?
I mean I get your point - it's why I defend Frank's choice to play the Pal/Bents pivot - but facts aren't exactly marrying up to your feelings here. I'd suggest we all just acknowledge that our squad is shit and has been for years.
Even if that means acknowledging that Postecoglou overperformed in his first season - and even in the second given the injuries and European Trophy.
We need to lower expectations for everyone until we sign some fucking quality.
With ENIC and the deadly duo running the football operation , I highly doubt we'll be signing some fucking quality anytime soonWe have one more point than we did at the same stage of the league last year?
I mean I get your point - it's why I defend Frank's choice to play the Pal/Bents pivot - but facts aren't exactly marrying up to your feelings here. I'd suggest we all just acknowledge that our squad is shit and has been for years.
Even if that means acknowledging that Postecoglou overperformed in his first season - and even in the second given the injuries and European Trophy.
We need to lower expectations for everyone until we sign some fucking quality.
We're probably mulling over a 50 mil bid for Chris Wood in January
When is he going to show proof of this?
The job that any manager has to rebuild our First Team unit is absolutely huge. It’s not just the playing squad. It’s the culture, vibe, focus, motivation, morale, mentality and simple work ethic of the whole organisation that works around the team. The TC over the years has become a toxic hotel of complacency, privilege and misguided satisfaction. The legacy of Levy is way beyond the lack of technical quality in the squad - and the rebuild is huge. We are building back from being top to bottom losers and coasters. It’s dispiriting but true.
The culmination and extent of our diabolical state is emphasised both by our pitiful 17th place position finish last year and also seeing where the three relegated teams are in the Championship now. 9th, 14th and 18th. Not exactly tearing it up. Just piss poor. Absolute garbage. We are lucky as fuck not to have been relegated.
Being in the CL is almost a pointless joke. We don’t belong there. We don’t deserve to be there. We’ve got 5 points thanks to an own goal and two lucky draws. We’re way off being a decent side. But fans are supposed to keep lapping up the warm diarrhoea that is squirted in our faces by the horror show of ENIC and pay £100 to watch pointless abject failure after pointless abject failure. All because some annoying hipster twit has a guitar and that makes it a premium experience.
Fuck off.
So, in summary, Frank has a bloody impossible job on his hands. I see tiny fragments of potential progress. That’s probably all we can realistically hope for right now. He needs time, money and resources we may not even have. But I’ll keep the faith and back the man for now. God knows what the alternative is.
The culmination and extent of our diabolical state is emphasised both by our pitiful 17th place position finish last year and also seeing where the three relegated teams are in the Championship now. 9th, 14th and 18th. Not exactly tearing it up. Just piss poor. Absolute garbage. We are lucky as fuck not to have been relegated.
Being in the CL is almost a pointless joke. We don’t belong there. We don’t deserve to be there. We’ve got 5 points thanks to an own goal and two lucky draws. We’re way off being a decent side. But fans are supposed to keep lapping up the warm diarrhoea that is squirted in our faces by the horror show of ENIC and pay £100 to watch pointless abject failure after pointless abject failure. All because some annoying hipster twit has a guitar and that makes it a premium experience.
Fuck off.
So, in summary, Frank has a bloody impossible job on his hands. I see tiny fragments of potential progress. That’s probably all we can realistically hope for right now. He needs time, money and resources we may not even have. But I’ll keep the faith and back the man for now. God knows what the alternative is.
Never gonna happen.
Long ball manager at a club that has fans that want to see football.
Wouldn't say its bad but not good enough for sure. We need some key parts.
Tuchel, de zerbi or poch next summer as alternative. De zerbi think his ego is too big for us imo.
He did tonight because Ange would have lost it 4-0