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This dude, Frank, is supposed to be odds on our next manager and I haven’t been convinced by anything about him. It would be his first time at an elite club and we have been the scene of many a drowned manager out of their depth. Postecoglu just being the latest.

I wish someone on this thread would make a compelling case. I’m all ears

Here's what AI has to say...

Why Thomas Frank is the man for Tottenham:

1. Proven Overperformance and Resource Maximization:
* Doing More with Less: Frank's most undeniable achievement is establishing Brentford as a robust, competitive Premier League side with one of the league's lowest wage bills. He consistently gets more out of his players than their individual price tags or perceived talent levels might suggest. This is a critical skill for Tottenham, a club that, while ambitious, has often been lauded for its shrewd spending rather than extravagant outlays. Frank's ability to identify, develop, and integrate players into a cohesive system would be invaluable.
* Statistical Edge: Brentford's success is not accidental. They are renowned for their data-driven recruitment and tactical approach. Frank works within this framework to maximize "marginal gains," ensuring every aspect of the club, from set-pieces to player fitness, is optimized. This scientific approach could bring a much-needed analytical edge to Spurs, helping them to consistently find advantages.
2. Tactical Adaptability and Pragmatism:
* Beyond a Single System: Unlike some managers who are wedded to a rigid philosophy, Frank has demonstrated remarkable tactical flexibility. He has evolved Brentford's playing style from possession-based to counter-attacking and pressing-focused, adapting to the league, the opposition, and the players at his disposal. This adaptability is crucial for a top club, as it allows for game-by-game adjustments against varied opponents and offers solutions when injuries or dips in form occur.
* Mastering the "Big Six": Frank has a strong record against top teams, even managing to do the double over a treble-winning Manchester City side with Brentford. This suggests he understands how to set up his teams to nullify elite opposition and exploit their weaknesses, a quality essential for challenging for silverware. He is pragmatic and willing to adjust his game plan for specific opponents.
3. Elite Man-Management and Player Development:
* Relational Coaching: Frank is praised as a "good human" and a relational coach. He fosters strong bonds with his players, emphasizing clear communication, trust, and empowerment. In an era where player welfare and communication are paramount, his approach is likely to resonate with Tottenham's squad. This strong relationship could unlock higher levels of performance from existing talent and attract new players.
* Developing Undervalued Talent: Frank has a track record of taking players and significantly improving them, turning them into Premier League quality assets (e.g., Ollie Watkins, Bryan Mbeumo, Ivan Toney). Tottenham's squad has a mix of established stars and promising young players. Frank's ability to develop talent could see Spurs' current crop reach their full potential and integrate academy prospects more effectively.
* No "Dkheads" Rule:** His uncompromising stance on creating a positive and collaborative team culture, famously stating that "they'll need to leave" if someone breaks the "no d**kheads" rule, is a clear sign of his commitment to a healthy dressing room dynamic. This kind of strong leadership is vital for maintaining discipline and unity in a competitive environment.
4. Building a Sustainable Foundation:
* Long-Term Vision: Frank has been at Brentford since 2018, demonstrating loyalty and a commitment to a long-term project. This stability is something Tottenham has often lacked, with a high turnover of managers in recent years. A sustained period under a clear-thinking, adaptable manager could provide the foundation for consistent success.
* Beyond the Manager: While Frank is the public face, his success at Brentford is also a testament to a strong club structure and a clear philosophy. He understands how to integrate with and benefit from a well-run club. If Tottenham can provide a supportive and aligned structure, Frank has shown he can thrive within it.
Conclusion:
While the step up to Tottenham Hotspur presents new challenges, Thomas Frank's coaching acumen, tactical flexibility, proven ability to overperform, and exceptional man-management skills make him a compelling candidate. He offers a blend of pragmatic football and a nurturing, developmental approach that could be exactly what Tottenham needs to not only compete at the very top of the league but also consistently challenge for and win the best trophies. He has a clear understanding of what it takes to succeed in the Premier League and the leadership qualities to instill a winning mentality and build a sustainable, high-performing team.
 
You say that but we've also sacked managers who's last full season was 4th..........

For the most part it's a matter of form and trajectory (and sometimes conflict).
We were 14th 1/3rd through the season without having won a match in 6 weeks when we sacked Poch. Poch wasn't doing much better than Jol was when he was sacked - clearly well off target.

Conte defies classification, really. He downed tools without resigning. Threw a tirade in a press conference then fucked off to Italy and eventually "mutually parted ways".

AVB was sacked for drifting into 7th.
 
Man, I am so grateful for Ange winning the EL and think he got a job done. I thought it made sense to move on because it’s a completely different set of competitions this year.

But, all the Ange cult members are making me hate the guy. The state of this thread…
 
Nope. And you only have to look at the people who gave a "laugh" emoji to that particular post to identify some of the worst people going round on here.

What hope does Frank - or whoever comes in to manage us - when we have people like this supposedly being "fans". So utterly toxic.
oh give it a rest you’re one of the biggest idiots on here. it was unnecessary language from me but it’s in response to an ange troll’s incessant posting. my point was that the ange argument is over and pointless. i wasn’t just being offensive for the hell of it. either way, i’m finished with the term i used and i’ll just ignore the idiots like you. don’t bother responding. i won’t see it
 
oh give it a rest you’re one of the biggest idiots on here. it was unnecessary language from me but it’s in response to an ange troll’s incessant posting. my point was that the ange argument is over and pointless. i wasn’t just being offensive for the hell of it. either way, i’m finished with the term i used and i’ll just ignore the idiots like you. don’t bother responding. i won’t see it

You'd delete your post and apologise to mrs P if you have any class 👍
 
If we finished 6th, 7th or even 8th this season alongside the EL win Ange would still be in a job.
I think he'd have kept the job had we finished low as 10th . I think people make loads of excuses but EPL managers live and die on league form and his was terrible. I honestly think Ange Postecoglou did it to himself. I think he has imposter syndrome and self sabotaged. So desperate was he to win every silly slanging match with journalists and critics it was pitiable. Had he shown an iota of the same pragmatism he showed in the knockout stages of the Europa and played conservative in the EPL we'd have turned enough narrow defeats into draws and won enough games to stay top half. I think in the future he'll look back and have loads of regrets.
 
Nope. And you only have to look at the people who gave a "laugh" emoji to that particular post to identify some of the worst people going round on here.

What hope does Frank - or whoever comes in to manage us - when we have people like this supposedly being "fans". So utterly toxic.
Harry Vaginola Harry Vaginola had the good grace to apologise, so we'll let it go.
I get that some people are glad that Ange has gone, but no need for personal insults against him or people who appreciate that he's delivered a long awaited trophy.
 
We were 14th 1/3rd through the season without having won a match in 6 weeks when we sacked Poch. Poch wasn't doing much better than Jol was when he was sacked - clearly well off target.

Yes..... As I just said; a matter of form rather than final league position the season before.

Conte defies classification, really. He downed tools without resigning. Threw a tirade in a press conference then fucked off to Italy and eventually "mutually parted ways".

Quite. I was alluding to Poch & Redknapp however.

AVB was sacked for drifting into 7th.

....Yes; a matter of form and manner of defeats (and like rumoured with Jose; talk that he'd lost the players).

But crucially; wasn't sacked due to finishing 6th the season before.


None of this cements the alleged hard margin of 5th.....


AVB - 7th (at time of sacking) / 6th (prev finish).
Redknapp - n/a / 4th
Poch - 14th / 4th
Jose - 7th / 6th (Took over with team in 14th so moot - Allegedly ousted by players.)
Nuno - 8th / n/a
Conte - 4th / 4th ("mutual consent" - but basically engineered his own exit)
Ange - 5th / 17th


The funny thing here is that someone else here said y'day (in a pro-Ange agenda waffle) that all our managers (pre-Ange) get sacked for not winning a cup.... Which is patently not true either.
 
Yes..... As I just said; a matter of form rather than final league position the season before.



Quite. I was alluding to Poch & Redknapp however.



....Yes; a matter of form and manner of defeats (and like rumoured with Jose; talk that he'd lost the players).

But crucially; wasn't sacked due to finishing 6th the season before.


None of this cements the alleged hard margin of 5th.....


AVB - 7th (at time of sacking) / 6th (prev finish).
Redknapp - n/a / 4th
Poch - 14th / 4th
Jose - 7th / 6th (Took over with team in 14th so moot - Allegedly ousted by players.)
Nuno - 8th / n/a
Conte - 4th / 4th ("mutual consent" - but basically engineered his own exit)
Ange - 5th / 17th


The funny thing here is that someone else here said y'day (in a pro-Ange agenda waffle) that all our managers (pre-Ange) get sacked for not winning a cup.... Which is patently not true either.
agreed. most of our sackings happened when we were in free fall and/or melting down. the redknapp saga is well known. avb was getting put to the sword weekly and starting talk gibberish in pressers. poch and jose pretty much too. then you have sherwood pulling people from the stands and conte mugging off the club. our last guy seemed to do all of the above.

i think we’re slowly learning what kind of manager is the right fit and i think frank checks all our boxes. but if anyone can break him we certainly can!
 
This dude, Frank, is supposed to be odds on our next manager and I haven’t been convinced by anything about him. It would be his first time at an elite club and we have been the scene of many a drowned manager out of their depth. Postecoglu just being the latest.

I wish someone on this thread would make a compelling case. I’m all ears
there's a bundle of good videos that have been posted that are worth a watch.

im more excited about this than i was conte, someone who adapts to get what he thinks is best for the players he has, not someone whos going to try and force his way of playing and putting square pegs in round holes. i remember time and time again under conte we had the wingback system, and the man who got all the time on the ball to do damage in the final third was emerson royal!!! painful really. we wont be seeing anything like that under frank.

the last 18 months have been hell as a fan, watching the side setup to fail, getting embarrassed most weeks. thank fuck thats over!



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh0vtkwaRj0&t=276s

this is a good one
 
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there's a bundle of good videos that have been posted that are worth a watch.

im more excited about this than i was conte, someone who adapts to get what he thinks is best for the players he has, not someone whos going to try and force his way of playing and putting square pegs in round holes. i remember time and time again under conte we had the wingback system, and the man who got all the time on the ball to do damage in the final third was emerson royal!!! painful really. we wont be seeing anything like that under frank.

the last 18 months have been hell as a fan, watching the side setup to fail, getting embarrassed most weeks. thank fuck thats over!



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh0vtkwaRj0&t=276s

this is a good one

I must be out of touch , is a manager supposed to have this much interaction with the players at training ?
Some of our players are going to get a fright .
 
The squad has shown it can challenge for top half of the table and go deep in cups / win silverware.

My expectations under Frank is a top 7 finish and silverware.

Anything less is a failure.
 
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