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Manager Thomas Frank

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That's my biggest worry - managing Brentford is a different kettle of fish to managing us,
Can't argue with that. Fanbase, history, stadium, expectations, you name it. I prefer to think that he's similar to Poch when he moved from Saints. Although on the plus side is he's achieved more. Poch took over a promoted club which since the late 1960's had spent most of the time in the top div. Frank has got BFC promoted and then established. The last time they'd been in Div 1 was 1947!

He's moving from a very small London club. Until 3 years ago I'd say that only Orient and AFC Wimbledon were smaller. I'm encouraged that he comes across so well in interviews etc. It doesn't look like anything phases him. When he lost that idiot Toney and a load of injured players at the same time I don't recall him complaining. He just got on with it and comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger.

He'll do his best, he'll improve us up the PL table for sure, we won't lose 22 in a season. I think he'll have us in contention for European spots. CL will be a massive challenge for him, no question, but he'll be a better manager than most of the oppos. He's managed to beat several of the top teams with BFC, inc a double over City, despite someone here complaining that he was useless v top 6.
 
And, contrary to what people think of me, I'm happy to be wrong when it benefits THFC.
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That's my biggest worry - managing Brentford is a different kettle of fish to managing us, expectations are miles apart. Having said that, he's going to find that he'll have to make do with what he's got and set up the team to their strengths rather than set them up to fall flat on their faces.
If he can do that, and I really hope he does, then he might achieve a level of success that is expected. My measure of that for next season would be at least top 8 and a domestic cup, followed by top 5 and another trophy.
(In my dreams that would obviously be CL and/or PL).
That was the basis of Conte's problem... HE had bigger expectations of US than WE did!

I think Frank will make the step up just fine!
 
You’re being very generous regarding when it got shit under Ange as I thought it got shit the previous October after the 9 man high line against the Chavs which was nothing short of embarrassing 😳

Memory may be fuzzy, but didn’t we come very close to getting something from that game and only spit the bit at the very end?

Lotta things to complain about in the Ange era. Never understood the focus on that game.
Yey! The Chavs game debate!

Forget the Europa. This right here is Ange's legacy. The fable of the 9 v 11 that is forever mentioned on TFC.

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Surprised we havent sacked him yet

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It doesn't look like anything phases him. When he lost that idiot Toney and a load of injured players at the same time I don't recall him complaining. He just got on with it and comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger.
Spurs under Postecoglou, finish 17th with 38pts:

TFC: Ange nearly got us relegated!!

Tomas Frank finishes 16th with 39pts:

TFC: Frank "comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger".

He'll do his best, he'll improve us up the PL table for sure, we won't lose 22 in a season.
You're probably right. The most Frank has lost in the Premier League is a measly 20 games just the season before last.
 
Spurs under Postecoglou, finish 17th with 38pts:

TFC: Ange nearly got us relegated!!

Tomas Frank finishes 16th with 39pts:

TFC: Frank "comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger".


You're probably right. The most Frank has lost in the Premier League is a measly 20 games just the season before last.
That is a fair post !
And it has the content to make a few uncomfortable that's for sure!
 
Spurs under Postecoglou, finish 17th with 38pts:

TFC: Ange nearly got us relegated!!

Tomas Frank finishes 16th with 39pts:

TFC: Frank "comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger".


You're probably right. The most Frank has lost in the Premier League is a measly 20 games just the season before last.
So Postecoglou had the worst league season between them which is quite the achievement given he was in charge of Tottenham and had 2 seasons compared to Frank who had 4 seasons in the prem and was at Brentford. Now also compare spend.
 
Spurs under Postecoglou, finish 17th with 38pts:

TFC: Ange nearly got us relegated!!

Tomas Frank finishes 16th with 39pts:

TFC: Frank "comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger".


You're probably right. The most Frank has lost in the Premier League is a measly 20 games just the season before last.
OK, if you think that managing Spurs (9th Richest club in the world) is equivalent to managing Brentford (last in the top division in 1947) then I really bow to your better judgement.

Others might think that a par finish for Spurs is top 6 PL, and BFC is lower part of Champo. Not really the same ball park.

Maybe you think that finishing 17th is fine? If you're BFC then anything above relegation places is the number one priority every season.
 
OK, if you think that managing Spurs (9th Richest club in the world) is equivalent to managing Brentford (last in the top division in 1947) then I really bow to your better judgement.

Others might think that a par finish for Spurs is top 6 PL, and BFC is lower part of Champo. Not really the same ball park.

Maybe you think that finishing 17th is fine? If you're BFC then anything above relegation places is the number one priority every season.
I don't think anyone can deny that Tomas Frank has done a brilliant job at Brentford, for all the reasons you mention.

My concern is whether he can improve on his record there with Spurs, and if he's any kind of upgrade on Ange Postecoglou.

I've made it clear I thought Ange deserved another year, but now that, as a club we've decided to go with Frank instead, I'm willing to give.him time to see how he does.

Personally I doubt he'll mamage to match what Postecoglou achieved in two seasons, let alone exceed it. Obviously as a fan I hope he can, and if he does I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.
 
Spurs under Postecoglou, finish 17th with 38pts:

TFC: Ange nearly got us relegated!!

Tomas Frank finishes 16th with 39pts:

TFC: Frank "comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger".


You're probably right. The most Frank has lost in the Premier League is a measly 20 games just the season before last.

You are a cheery sod aint ya :franklol:

Have you just found out that Frankie boy back in tha day had some jiggy time with your now partner???
 
Memory may be fuzzy, but didn’t we come very close to getting something from that game and only spit the bit at the very end?

Lotta things to complain about in the Ange era. Never understood the focus on that game.
What we got was, flattered.
They somehow managed to be offside multiple times when our stupid line was in their half most of the time, they also broke that offside trap many times but couldn't hit a barn door when the chances arose. Vicario looked like the worlds best keeper at stages, running out and closing down the breaks. It was pitiful, Chelsea should have have 6-8 goals in truth.

So no, we didn't nearly get anything. Even if our disallowed 2nd goal had counted, Chelsea would have just pushed harder and our silly line would have caved eventually.
 
I don't think anyone can deny that Tomas Frank has done a brilliant job at Brentford, for all the reasons you mention.

My concern is whether he can improve on his record there with Spurs, and if he's any kind of upgrade on Ange Postecoglou.

I've made it clear I thought Ange deserved another year, but now that, as a club we've decided to go with Frank instead, I'm willing to give.him time to see how he does.

Personally I doubt he'll mamage to match what Postecoglou achieved in two seasons, let alone exceed it. Obviously as a fan I hope he can, and if he does I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.
Its the expectations that the Board and the Fan Base put on the manager that is the make or break. Brentford obviously nowhere near as big as Spurs and he has to be able to have a big say in incoming transfers with Levy staying away!
 
how any 'spurs fan' can not be excited about frank is beyond me. an intelligent football man who actually wants to be here! its the logical choice that just feels right.

it may not work, but he deserves a fair crack. hes picking up a team thats just lost 22 games in the league.... hes got to build a genuine winning culture!
 
Can't argue with that. Fanbase, history, stadium, expectations, you name it. I prefer to think that he's similar to Poch when he moved from Saints. Although on the plus side is he's achieved more. Poch took over a promoted club which since the late 1960's had spent most of the time in the top div. Frank has got BFC promoted and then established. The last time they'd been in Div 1 was 1947!

He's moving from a very small London club. Until 3 years ago I'd say that only Orient and AFC Wimbledon were smaller. I'm encouraged that he comes across so well in interviews etc. It doesn't look like anything phases him. When he lost that idiot Toney and a load of injured players at the same time I don't recall him complaining. He just got on with it and comfortably stayed clear of relegation danger.

He'll do his best, he'll improve us up the PL table for sure, we won't lose 22 in a season. I think he'll have us in contention for European spots. CL will be a massive challenge for him, no question, but he'll be a better manager than most of the oppos. He's managed to beat several of the top teams with BFC, inc a double over City, despite someone here complaining that he was useless v top 6.

The 4:3 home win against man united was the only game Brentford won last season against the "big six"
 
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