Nice one. Sometimes I think fans are in this weird prism of thinking we should be winning every game. Despite it probably being 75% the manager’s fault, you don’t take a group of players that finished 17th with 22 defeats and have them top 4 in one season. Every smart pundit said it in the summer. Of course the group of players under achieved massively last season but it is still the same group of players. It’s why I said I expected us to finish 8th this season with the ceiling being the Europa League place if we performed above expectations. Before we made any significant transfers I think I may have even said I could see us finishing as low as 12th but I think 5th to 8th is more realistic. And that is if we get some key inured players back.
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Nice one. Sometimes I think fans are in this weird prism of thinking we should be winning every game. Despite it probably being 75% the manager’s fault, you don’t take a group of players that finished 17th with 22 defeats and have them top 4 in one season. Every smart pundit said it in the summer. Of course the group of players under achieved massively last season but it is still the same group of players. It’s why I said I expected us to finish 8th this season with the ceiling being the Europa League place if we performed above expectations. Before we made any significant transfers I think I may have even said I could see us finishing as low as 12th but I think 5th to 8th is more realistic. And that is if we get some key inured players back.
Why do some of our “fans” seem to want every manager to fail? 
Why do some of our “fans” seem to want every manager to fail?
Misery>company
It’s the classic Spurs script.
Like watching Marvel movie that’s meant to be a new one but suddenly feels familiar.
If you didn’t beat City, Liverpool, Barca, and PSG, does really count as a trophy??
That’s what I often wonder to myself
There are some absolute weapons on this forum. What fucking planet are you on? Borrowed time?
We’ve only lost twice in the league. Looking very well organised at the back. A win takes us up to second ffs, two points behind Woolwich.
What the fuck do you want? Win every single game 5-0?
Stop with the dramatics. You sound like a spoilt child.
I think he will definitely have until Christmas before any alarms sound. But the coming fixtures will be nail-biting. And I thought we have become more controlled and poised that I can look forward to games now instead of feeling so dreadful at possibility of boring football served up.
How have Brentford got better since Frank left, I thought he was the one keeping them in the league all this time?
They’re one of those clubs where it doesn’t matter who the manager is, because they’re so well run behind the scenes. Something we can learn from
Maybe for the fans, not the board
Why do some of our “fans” seem to want every manager to fail?
It’s exhausting. I get that every manager is going to be divisive, and you’re always going to get sections of fans who don’t want a particular manager, but it feels like some fans are more hellbent on hoping that a manager fails rather than wanting the team to do well.
Modern football fandom doesn’t help either. People need to realise that you’re not going to win every game and you’ll have ups and downs throughout a season.
I think it is more a case of frustration that the manager hasn't been given the tools he needs to succeed ... again ... and again ... and again.Why do some of our “fans” seem to want every manager to fail?
Lazy excuse.
And doesn't make sense anyway, surely the frustration would be at the people who built the team, not the one managing it.
Quite....
"I'm frustrated with trfs so I want failure"
Mentality of a petulant brat, at best.
Mentality of always needing to scapegoat someone, since Ange and Levy have been removed folk feel the need to target someone to let get their shit off.
Frank is clearly a decent bloke and I hope he succeeds, but games like todays we cannot lose. Player for player, we have a better squad than Everton.
At the moment, our forward players are not playing for each other. They don't support each other in possession, they're static when we're in the final third and so they inevitably end up playing backwards and sidewards. From the outside looking in, this says to me that the players don't really like each other and there's a bit of politics going in behind the scenes.
It's up to Frank to fix that, and if he can't, the run of games we have coming up before Christmas will be the end of him.
At the moment, our forward players are not playing for each other. They don't support each other in possession, they're static when we're in the final third and so they inevitably end up playing backwards and sidewards. From the outside looking in, this says to me that the players don't really like each other and there's a bit of politics going in behind the scenes.
It's up to Frank to fix that, and if he can't, the run of games we have coming up before Christmas will be the end of him.