I don't think they're behind the style of play that's for sure!
But I think the notion of saying the win had nothing to do with the manager is frankly rollocks, sorry, that's not how football works.
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I don't think they're behind the style of play that's for sure!
But I think the notion of saying the win had nothing to do with the manager is frankly rollocks, sorry, that's not how football works.
Using one example out of the other hundreds is hilarious.
Southgate got England to a Euro final, world cup semi final, Di Matteo won a CL, Ange won an EL. Hell, Slot won the league last year. Do I think they're great managers, no. Arteta has failed spectacularly with that squad he has, and if he wins it's because they have two top players in every position, while City are going through a rebuild as are Liverpool.
The days of Ferguson's and Wenger's are over. Managers come and go. Villa hired managers quicker than we did til they found the one that good for them, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Palace, Bayern. Real Madrid essentially forced Ancelotti out because it was stagnating. If Iraola played the football that Frank plays here, he's absolutely have been sacked and rightfully so. They were in diffs, he came in mid season and rescued them from going down, there were clearly signs he was getting them going, but devoid of confidence and no time to implemt his system always would make it slower. Wild comparison. Frank has had a preseason ~£200m and two loanees of players he wanted and we're horrible, and have been all season, and it doesn't look like getting better at all.
But nah, we'll just be shite because we hired the wrong guy and we'll go with it. The pro Frank arguments are getting more ridiculous by the day.
That's true but Glasner has done more with Palace than Frank ever did with Brentford (as well as he did tbf)
My point is it's obvious Glasner has a higher ceiling as a coach, and perhaps that does buy him more patience.
I honestly think he'd be a great fit for the Club given time.
Frank never felt right. But he definitely gets time to turn this around but he needs to start showing he has the balls for the job but I'm not overly confident that he does.
£125m and RKM to replace them, all Frank's players. That's on him.
Yesterday was painful. I'm on the fence about Frank now. He seems to be in survival mode at Spurs. He inherited a mess of a squad but practically freezing out the likes of Bergvall, Gray or Tel is not the way forward. Unless it all changes 'when he gets his injured players back' ... fuck, we've been there before 
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Completely agree with Charlie here - read full thread. With Frank (and could go back to Conte and Jose dark days) if the football is this bad then if you don't get a result fans have nothing to cling onto.
Something needs to change very quickly or we'll be having an interim again in next few months
Catch a grip. You know that's not true. Would we be watching the worst coward ball ever seen? No, we wouldn't. Large majority of us would be happy and willing to give him time as he plays the right type of football. Could it fail, of course it could, but we'd certainly be delighted as a fan base with an appointment like that.
The vast, middle ground between Ange and Frank is where we should be where we look at managers.
Who the hell rates these players? If you don't think the manager has anything to do with this, then, wow.
Watching the match yesterday I thought the players looked dysfunctional and were just going through the motions.
Just my opinion but I don't think Frank gave VDV and Romero the licence to make those lung bursting runs for the 3rd and 4th goals against Copenhagen when down to 10 men.
Maybe I'm doing Frank a complete disservice and he coached the team to create space so that our centre backs could drive forward with the ball and that was our plan when down to 10 men.
To me if felt like VDV and Romero went rogue and Frank could only sit back and watch it work out.
Hows that working out for Man Utd?
As for Chelsea, I'm not sure what your point is? They're being pumped full of debt by a faceless organisation and are a mess
Get what you're saying but the buck always stops with the manager.
I mean it was the same against Chelsea. Couldn't blame the crowd this time.
They should be all singing off the same page.
We don't look like a team who's going to fight for every second ball and it's those differences that make the difference.
Bentancur has been OK when he is not playing with Palhinha. One of them is OK, just not together.
Gray and Bergvall really need to start getting minutes now they are fit again imo.
Oh don’t get me wrong I’m not impressed at all from what I’ve seen from Frank so far, but the majority of this forum were actually happy about giving Bentencur a new contract . That’s the level that we are content with. That’s without getting into porro, undogie , Danso, etc etc. bang average shite
The problem is to play eager hungry kids, you need to be fearless.
Frank’s a tactical p*ssy at the end of the day. His first thought isn’t how he can hurt the opposition in open play.
Defensive managers just do not work at Spurs.
If that was the case then our players would be doing that every match, not just that one - why didn't you see the players abandon tactics yesterday in that case?
Again this isn't how football works, players don't just pick and choose whether they want to defy the manager or not.
We lost all our world class players (or kept them long enough to decline). We let Poch's side rot by replacing the midfield with Winks and Sissoko.
Then we gradually filled our squad with mid-table players like Richy, Odobert, Johnson, Vicario and Tel. Maybe even Palhinha and Bentancur if I'm being harsh.
This is the main reason we are where we are. Frank is just the next scapegoat.
Then we gradually filled our squad with mid-table players like Richy, Odobert, Johnson, Vicario and Tel. Maybe even Palhinha and Bentancur if I'm being harsh.
This is the main reason we are where we are. Frank is just the next scapegoat.
It was 100% because of the manager... how you think he has no ownership of that game is madness.