But what about our level?
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Won our first trophy for 20 odd years. Was that not progress?I agree with you. But not on your expected time for build-up.
In 18 to 24 months, you should be able see progress - we didn't under Ange. He was not tactically versatile enough for the Prem.
But Frank has been in the job for a few months. We can't expect him and the team to challenge for Top 4 when we're trying to implement a new philosophy. What we can expect, however, is that they fight there asses off.
ThisHis philosophy is not suited to a big 6 club who should be expected to dominate most of the opposition they face rather than approaching each game as the under dog hoping to nick results against the run of play.
He was a shocking appointment.
. The club needs to raise its standards, starting with the manager, or things are gonna get very ugly, very quickly and stadium will be half empty.
Said it before but Brentford look better now he goneWell it's happened, Brentford are above us in the league. It means we may as well have appointed Brentford's set piece coach as our first team manager.
Yeah, he has properly stepped in it a couple of times now with the Woolwich game and picking a fight with some of the fans.As soon as you turn on the fans that’s it , unacceptable from the fans? It’s unacceptable to setup like he did in a NLD! That’s the final line for me, don’t you dare question the fans you useless prick!
He can play any variation of players in anyI think that’s part of the problem for sure. Frank has worked out which ones he knows are shit. It’s why we haven’t seen Tel and Johnson. I suspect it is why he is having to constantly rotate the team. It is because he is looking for the best fit of players but they keep letting him down.
It all goes back to recruitment and levy being a tight fucker.
Do you not see that it's counter productive to boo your own goalkeeper after he's made a mistake?As soon as you turn on the fans that’s it , unacceptable from the fans? It’s unacceptable to setup like he did in a NLD! That’s the final line for me, don’t you dare question the fans you useless prick!
This. We don't shoot from distance so players seemed not coached to defend those types of shots too. A very stupid mindset from Frank IMHO to think shooting from distance are wasting opportunities.We keep conceding the same types of goal.
Shots from the edge of the box because Franck only sees value from < 12 yards in both boxes
Turnovers trying to play out from the back
As soon as you turn on the fans that’s it , unacceptable from the fans? It’s unacceptable to setup like he did in a NLD! That’s the final line for me, don’t you dare question the fans you useless prick!
Absolutely crazy not to continue that path, to at least give him this time period to continue the journey. The last, and final absolutely huge blunder from Leby before he left?I only dropped in to see how things were going in the Post-Ange era… and, right on cue, the oldest tune in football starts playing: “the coach is out of his depth.”
It’s a comforting story, but not a truthful one.
The coach is rarely the problem. What undoes teams like Spurs, Chelsea, Everton — take your pick — isn’t a lack of tactical IQ; it’s a lack of structural patience. You can’t change direction every 18 months and expect continuity. You can’t hire for one philosophy, sack it mid-cycle, and then complain the new one doesn’t “fit.”
Every manager inherits half a squad built for someone else, with a fanbase that’s been emotionally reset to zero. It’s not that they’re out of their depth — it’s that they’re swimming in a pool that keeps being drained and refilled.
Modern football’s biggest illusion is that “the right manager” can outthink instability. The truth is, even the best drown when the environment won’t hold.
And with Ange? They had someone who did have a plan. Maybe not perfect, maybe rough around the edges — but a clear, brave identity that needed time.. got a trophy- and was soley focused on that with all the injuries...
They fucked it with Ange.
Anyone can see that.
No shooting from outside, no through balls. Opposition easily have a field day defending against us. Frank is so naive.He’s big on set-pieces ad crosses from the wing or from out full-backs. That’s his style. He doesn’t have anything else. Playing through the middle? No chance.