Average of Frank's xG over the last 18 games where the stats are available is 1.11
Average of Ange's xG over his last 18 games for us where the stats are available is 1.26
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Average of Ange's xG over his last 18 games for us where the stats are available is 1.26
It was and that was why Frank was bought in to improve us and hopefully take to next level.
But we were kept being told that the players are much better than 17th. That a decent coach could come in and make us a team much better. Why is it now that after all the money we have spent players are crap. It’s just to suit people’s agenda.
£40M on Tel is bargain bin money?
don’t see Fulham , Bmouth, palace, Brighton , wolves , etc spending that sort of money on one player. Wilson cost £30M ffs. It’s not like we buying players for £5M. We are spending good money on crap players. Although we are told some these are actually good yet they can’t get a game. Bring all the loanees and send the dross we have highe money for out on loan.
Everyone recall how he berated berg in pre season friendly I think last year.
Oh but he developed to Toney, wissa and mbeuno and so on. He can’t work on Xavi who is far more technical than the above. May be he can only work with certain types of players namely big and fast.
Yeah I think the truth is somewhere in between. Whenever we have a bad run suddenly the players are all total shit, but when we're in decent form no-one complains. We came 5th two seasons ago with a team that regularly included the likes of Royal, Davies, Hojbjerg, Skipp, etc and didn't include many of our newer signings (who most consider to be upgrades). Sure we've had a few losses and injuries to key players but I don't buy that the squad is rotten to the core.
That said, it's pretty clear the squad isn't where it should be given the money we've spent. A lot of players either aren't good enough, aren't in form or aren't playing anything like their full potential.
Overall I'd say this squad has big issues but should be comfortably top half, at the very least, and at the moment we're playing like a lower-mid table team. Sadly, even teams like Palace have a better first 11 than we do now, but our squad is far deeper and we shouldn't be a complete shambles unable to create chances. Frank needs to do better and if he doesn't he'll be out of the door before the new year.
vinai’s man, will he need to go?
Damsgaard was Brentford's technical, creative lynchpin last season. He was their Xavi.
Every year or so we end up in a situation where we think this is as low as we can get.. Then in time we get to taste a fresh new flavour of shit.
When we were 5-0 down in 20 minutes at Newcastle, I had to go and walk it off. And I had a long hard think about what the future of the club is and if there's any hope going forward.. I concluded that there's always a way back. We just need the right appointment and a ruthless summer and perhaps this feeling of crisis will encourage it from the club. Delusional obviously, but there's always hope is what I've always felt.
I'm looking at the future and I can't see a way forward. An ownership that we know good and damn well will behave the way it always has done. A squad of players with seemingly no exception, who are now showing open contempt for the club (because the fans are the club). Any new player we ever sign will be infected by that feeling, because it's a collective feeling. They're feeding into one another.
In spite of that. 3000 fans are going to travel the length of the country on Tuesday, getting back home at God knows what time, in the freezing cold. All the while knowing that almost certainly they are going to sit through shit talking from the opposition fans while they watch their team get battered.
When we were 5-0 down in 20 minutes at Newcastle, I had to go and walk it off. And I had a long hard think about what the future of the club is and if there's any hope going forward.. I concluded that there's always a way back. We just need the right appointment and a ruthless summer and perhaps this feeling of crisis will encourage it from the club. Delusional obviously, but there's always hope is what I've always felt.
I'm looking at the future and I can't see a way forward. An ownership that we know good and damn well will behave the way it always has done. A squad of players with seemingly no exception, who are now showing open contempt for the club (because the fans are the club). Any new player we ever sign will be infected by that feeling, because it's a collective feeling. They're feeding into one another.
In spite of that. 3000 fans are going to travel the length of the country on Tuesday, getting back home at God knows what time, in the freezing cold. All the while knowing that almost certainly they are going to sit through shit talking from the opposition fans while they watch their team get battered.
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That is pretty awful considering Frank took over in June a rejuvenated and trophy winning team looking forward to kicking on with a fresh start while Postecoglou's last 18 league games were either an injury ravaged catastrophe or the last 3 months where he saved our best players exclusively for the European campaign.
Out of interest what was Spurs xG for the first 13 games last season?
That is pretty awful considering Frank took over in June a rejuvenated and trophy winning team looking forward to kicking on with a fresh start while Postecoglou's last 18 league games were either an injury ravaged catastrophe or the last 3 months where he saved our best players exclusively for the European campaign.
Out of interest what was Spurs xG for the first 13 games last season?
Average xG per match: 1.69
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I've seen a lot of people use this "Frank took over a team on a high" argument in the past couple days and I don't buy it.
Sure it's a fresh start, but it's still a squad that lost 22 league games last season and without Son, Solanke, Kulu and Maddison - almost all of the creativity and experience in the front line has been ripped out of the side, along with a huge share of the goals.
Plus, while obviously there will be a sense of unity and camaraderie following the Europa win, I don't buy that this would have a significant bearing on how we'd play this season, or that we'd come into the season on a huge high, regardless of who the manager was. We did well to win the EL but as a barometer of the team's quality it was far more akin to Birmingham winning a League Cup or Wigan winning the FA Cup than a brilliant team storming to victory. I don't recall those teams did too great after those wins because they were 'trophy winning teams'.
Frank's been shit, no doubt, but the idea that he took over a team with immaculate vibes and few injuries/issues is a massive exaggeration imo.
That is pretty awful considering Frank took over in June a rejuvenated and trophy winning team looking forward to kicking on with a fresh start while Postecoglou's last 18 league games were either an injury ravaged catastrophe or the last 3 months where he saved our best players exclusively for the European campaign.
Out of interest what was Spurs xG for the first 13 games last season?
That or he inherited a bunch of losers who were so in the habit of losing against their peers that it’s become second nature to them. A group of players who decided that they needed to throw league games against premier league level footballers in order to bully footballers playing for AZ Alkmaar and Bodo Glimt. Rejuvenated? Sure, as long as the opposition wasn’t up to much. If they were it was a 38 point season where losses were shrugged off. All concluded by a shit off against United.
Of course one could argue that from day one Frank hasn’t had Kulu, Maddison or Solanke available and is having to repair the mentality of a squad who have the ego of champions league winners but the actual ability of a team who walked through some fodder but made Frankfurt look elite.
Decent coach might just be the key words there. Looks like we’ve replaced one dud of a coach in Big Ange with another.
He's not..... He's just lying and shit-stirring as always.
I used to a decade ago, but live in Aus now. I never liked going to games, especially away games as some of the fans were vile thugs shouting endless abuse.
I like watching the game, and don't understand the tribalism and violence.
I'll take South Korean fans any day of the week! Polite, get behind the team. Sing their hearts out.
Yeah - so many clowns on Youtube and Reddit pining for Ange and making comparisons.
Just cos Frank's been wank doesn't suddenly make Ange great again. He was 1 loss away from being unilaterally considered the worst Spurs manager in the modern era. He's a busted flush at this level and fans need to move the fuck on - I thought the Forest debacle would've finally shut them up but apparently not.
