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How are we conceding more with fit defenders and substantially more negative football
Our players further up the pitch can't hold onto the ball, so our defence is under an almost constant battering.How are we conceding more with fit defenders and substantially more negative football
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Odobert, RKM, Kudus are actually better at holding bro the ball than Son, Richarlison and Johnson/Kulusevski.
Our problem is our plodding midfield of death is a No Football zone, so the forwards rarely see the ball.
How are we conceding more with fit defenders and substantially more negative football
Because we're instructed to keep the shape as opposed to more pressing and closing down.
It's why we've conceded a ridiculous amount of shots around the edge of the box.
If I was an opposition manager I'd be telling my attackers to shoot on site as it unlikely to get blocked.
The opposition just double up on Kudus so he's in a cul-de-sac and we have nothing on the left. Odobert doesn't offer much, RKM tries to run the ball into the goal because there's nothing on to pass to or build on. We just can't knock the ball about enough in the opposing half of the pitch. The ball keeps coming back at us, also we keep passing the ball backwards and inviting pressure onto the defence, we spend far too much time playing in our own half.
That's how I see it anyway.
How are we conceding more with fit defenders and substantially more negative football
Wise man say crazy ass attack is the best form of defence.
Quite the achievementHow are we conceding more with fit defenders and substantially more negative football
Imo i think frank will be given the season. Was hired to stabilize the ship after us finishing 17th last season. I like Frank as a person and hes a nice guy but I cant see him being with us long term. Dont think hes ruthless enough or has it to win trophies. Im hoping poch will come back next season for unfinished business and hes backed to hilt like legohead.
They'll want to give him the season but the reality is mate if we keep losing at home he'll be sacked.
I do think the board will be really reluctant to sack him, though. I think if we plod along in mid-table playing shite but picking up just enough wins he'll hang on, simply cos there's no decent/willing replacement available. Plus sacking Frank makes the board look like dickheads, while also sending a message to future managers they won't be given time at Spurs.
Think it'll take us seriously lurching towards relegation for them to give him the boot (which sadly, isn't that unlikely given our current form).
Yeah I don't disagree but the home atmosphere is becoming more and more toxic.
If he starts picking up a few home wins in the next few weeks it will ease all pressure.
If we lose Saturday it will be horrendous. The point at Newcastle eased a little pressure until Saturday but that's all it was.
Cant keep expecting people to fork out high ticket prices watching defeat after defeat playing dull football.
Yeah, although weirdly I think clubs are actually being more patient with shite performances from managers than ever. I can't ever recall 'top' clubs holding onto such a horrendously underperforming managers before like us and United did last season. I suppose the Europa played a key role in that, but I still think in previous years both would've been fucked off much earlier.
Think in this age of directors of football, 'projects' and Woolwich doing well by sticking with Arteta, there's less appetite for managerial churn among the top teams. And the current manager market is also pretty awful, which certainly also plays a big part. If there was a Conte equivalent lurking then I think Frank's position would be in much more danger. As things stand, all the options look either questionable/bad or unlikely to join us.
Let's just hope we win on Saturday, and win with some style, and it could be the turning point under Frank
Best possible outcome
Okay here's food for thought.
In 14 Premier League matches we've had 44 shots on target, which is about 3.1 shots on target per match, but a good scoring success rate, we've scored 23 goals, so about 52% of our shots on target have been scored.
With no change to the defence for this sum, if we made more shots on target with our current scoring rate, we'd be fine.
Say if we had 6 shots on target per match instead of 3,1 and scored 52% of them, we'd be scoring 3. per match, meaning we'd have won mostly. We'd have scored 42 goals so far.
In 14 Premier League matches we've had 44 shots on target, which is about 3.1 shots on target per match, but a good scoring success rate, we've scored 23 goals, so about 52% of our shots on target have been scored.
With no change to the defence for this sum, if we made more shots on target with our current scoring rate, we'd be fine.
Say if we had 6 shots on target per match instead of 3,1 and scored 52% of them, we'd be scoring 3. per match, meaning we'd have won mostly. We'd have scored 42 goals so far.
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I think the evidence is that he has the mindset of a reactive rather than pro-active manager.
Two holding midfielders is the first obvious sign, lack of shots on goal, set piece reliance, long balls and second balls, its all about mitigating against the risk of losing and accepting that there will be fewer chances created and hoping we score from the few chances we create.
I believe this is an outcome of his managing experience, and his lack of the ultimate success ie winning trophies.
This-and his comments that this team finished 17 th last season-also reveals that he doesn't rate his own players to be pro-active and take the game to the opposition.
Its been mentioned he is tactically flexible- which can be a good thing-but not when he is reported to throw out the match day plan just before the players walk through the tunnel! That's another sign of him being fundamentally reactive, rather than pro-active. Its also detrimental to the confidence and belief of his players.
Unfortunately that approach will not do in front of home fans against top tier opposition let alone second or third tier clubs.
Two holding midfielders is the first obvious sign, lack of shots on goal, set piece reliance, long balls and second balls, its all about mitigating against the risk of losing and accepting that there will be fewer chances created and hoping we score from the few chances we create.
I believe this is an outcome of his managing experience, and his lack of the ultimate success ie winning trophies.
This-and his comments that this team finished 17 th last season-also reveals that he doesn't rate his own players to be pro-active and take the game to the opposition.
Its been mentioned he is tactically flexible- which can be a good thing-but not when he is reported to throw out the match day plan just before the players walk through the tunnel! That's another sign of him being fundamentally reactive, rather than pro-active. Its also detrimental to the confidence and belief of his players.
Unfortunately that approach will not do in front of home fans against top tier opposition let alone second or third tier clubs.
We are lurching towards relegation. Next few home games are Brentford, then Liverpool followed by Sunderland and six pointer vs West Ham. Need two wins or we will be in big shit come Feb, which is a horror month
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When all of you fucking come to terms with the reality that the deeply flawed Postecoglou actually overachieved with this squad you'll understand
A) why Frank hasn't immediately made us playing clear Top 5 quality football
And
B) why he should be given time to show that he can improve the squad and our fortunes
If you want to blame anyone blame the fuckwits who promised you that everything that was wrong with our club was the last manager. They sold you a fucking lie
But their lies shouldn't be held against Frank
(Unless we genuinely get dragged into a relegation battle)
Win Saturday and get the home crowd back onside and things will very quickly start to feel better
A) why Frank hasn't immediately made us playing clear Top 5 quality football
And
B) why he should be given time to show that he can improve the squad and our fortunes
If you want to blame anyone blame the fuckwits who promised you that everything that was wrong with our club was the last manager. They sold you a fucking lie
But their lies shouldn't be held against Frank
(Unless we genuinely get dragged into a relegation battle)
Win Saturday and get the home crowd back onside and things will very quickly start to feel better
Lose and it will be toxic
Yeah - if we don't improve, keep losing and end up 16th/17th without any signs of life (basically last season's form) then they might have to pull the trigger to shake things up and get us a new manager bounce.
I don't think it's very likely at all we'll get relegated, but unlike last season there are actually 18 functional teams in the division - West Ham and Leeds aren't great teams but they're a hell of a lot better than Ipswich/Saints/Leicester were. Will probably need around 38ish pts to stay up rather than 26 like last season.